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Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

not trying to cause trouble but this thread is just a equilizer thread to the other one that is posted by super-grunt about "Venus proved she is better". Fair is fair
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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

she proved she was the better player on the day! can we all calm down. Until the next time they play
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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

Since Justine had her breakthrough by winning her 1st major, she's been by far the best player. That's almost 5 years now. She's won more majors than Venus and Serena combined since then.
This year, Justine is 4-0 vs a Williams in a major. Justine's by far the best player.

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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena



so tian tian sun is better than serena and rezai is better than venus? yes, henin beat serena 3 times and serena only once but if serena gets into shape, we'll see. Henin beat venus once. All that proved is that shes a great player on all surfaces. Venus didn't play too well. I hope they can play again in YEC
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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

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Since Justine had her breakthrough by winning her 1st major, she's been by far the best player. That's almost 5 years now. She's won more majors than Venus and Serena combined since then.
This year, Justine is 4-0 vs a Williams in a major. Justine's by far the best player.
All that proves is that AT THE MOMENT Justine is the world number one, which we all knew anyway. And that since a specific time frame YOU have designated, Justine has won more majors. Why do you only take it from Justine's breakthrough? How is that proving objectively that Justine is a better player than Venus and Serena. To prove that you would have to take results objectively from a time period that allows for some equanimity between all three.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

She's been proving that for a long, long time. She masters every shot and has the best technique; Williams sisters never have.

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shes been proving it for years
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Since Justine had her breakthrough by winning her 1st major, she's been by far the best player. That's almost 5 years now. She's won more majors than Venus and Serena combined since then.
This year, Justine is 4-0 vs a Williams in a major. Justine's by far the best player.
Goldenlox, you're getting ahead of yourself. Since 2003 - Venus and Serena have had problems that meant they couldn't commit to tennis like they did pre 2003. Death of sister, numerous injuries and surgeries. In fact Serena started to decline and got worse and worse and was at her lowest in 2006. Venus just never regained her form and lost confidence. [All while justine - bar her 'Virus'/Steroid-come down - was able to compete and grow in confidence].

At the moment Justine is the best player, but Venus is getting her confidence back, and Serena is working in that direction. We'll see.
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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

if she's really that much better, I guess we'll have a really boring 2008. I don't think she's a better player, she just had a better year.
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I think we know that fact for a long time, Justine style of play can´t be compared to anyone on the tour, of course she is better than the sisters, she has much more variety and inteligence on court, the opposite of the sisters... Henin is a better version of Martina, with power

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Re: Justine proved she is now a better player than Venus and Serena

Whatever, Henin had a good two days credit to her. Henin's also had a consistent year but she sure is a very boring personality. Even Hingis had a better personality then Henin. I wouldn't go so far as to say she's better then the Williams Sisters. I am sure in 2008 both Sisters will bounce right back.
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The main difference now - Justine KNOWS it.
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I think we know that fact for a long time, Justine style of play can´t be compared to anyone on the tour, of course she is better than the sisters, she has much more variety and inteligence on court, the opposite of the sisters... Henin is a better version of Martina, with power
Who is this "we"? I think you will find quite a lot of people won't agree with you. Justine has more options in her game, however to say that she is a better play based on that, is quite simplistic imo.

On that basis we could say Evonne Goolagong was a better player than Chris Evert, which simply wasn't the case.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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I think we know that fact for a long time, Justine style of play can´t be compared to anyone on the tour, of course she is better than the sisters, she has much more variety and inteligence on court, the opposite of the sisters... Henin is a better version of Martina, with power

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The main difference now - Justine KNOWS it.
Well we have a problem then, as Serena KNOWS she is the best. They can't both be right. Justine has had a great tournament, give credit to her. But no need to go overboard and make far reaching conclusions based on 4 days of play and many intangibles besides.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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