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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2002, 12:15 AM Thread Starter
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Why hasn't Monica dedicated herself to fitness like Lindsey has?

Monica's natural tennis talent is untouchable but her main weekness is her fitness. Why hasn't she lost any weight in the last 4 or 5 years? She always says that she's working on that but she never loses any weight.

Lindsay has done an incredible job on her fitness and I just wished Monica had dedicated herself to doing that a couple of years ago. She would have contended for the No.1 ranking instead of lingering in the 4-6 positions.
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i personally look at it in a different way:

I am amazed that after the stabbing, the injustice of how Parche was set free, the coldness & disrespect of the WTA tour and the rest of the players towards her (voting against freezing no.1, against co-no.1, etc.), the death of her father/coach, knowing that without that incident she could have been the greatest, the millions of injuries, she is still out there. Anybody else would have left the game but here you have MONICA, the ultimate fighter.

To answer your question, who cares!

As for Lindsay, she is still single minded about her sport. Take for example Serena Williams. If she gets stabbed, lives through all this injustice, then loses her father/coach to cancer, do you think she would still be as motivated to stay in shape? I personally think that she wouldn't be even motivated to go out on the court.
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Well I don't think Monica is not motivated. You could see last summer than she did train very hard. She came back a lot fitter IMO, and as a result had some great wins.

Monica had slimmed down last summer, perhaps getting all the weight off is a little harder for her than Lindsay. Our bodies all react in different ways.

Another good example of the fact that she's fit is Australia this year. She went three sets with Venus and won, and then went three with Martina. And she even staged a comeback in that one. I believe she was like 4-0 down or 5-1 down. In the third and she got it to 6-4. I mean Hingis wilted faster in the final.

So I think she is working hard, the physical changes might not be glaring, but Monica is trying.
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Serena would be strong and come back and prove everyone wrong. She won't be mired in self pity like Monica did. Sure, Monica faced a huge injustice but she has had plenty of time to get over it. I'm tired of some fans using it as an excuse 10 years after the fact. GET OVER IT.

But this is Monica's career. If she doesn't want to be remember as one of the greatest of all time...so be it. It's just sad to see the talent go to waste. Sure, 9 Glandslams and 54 singles titles is terrific and a dream career for most but with her raw tennis talent, she could have been THE best!
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That is bullshit. You talk as if you know how Serena would react, she will definitely not be "more" motivated. Even Agassi said that if he had gone through everything Monica went through, he would never still be playing and that she's the athlete he admires the most.
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Sure, Monica faced a huge injustice but she has had plenty of time to get over it. I'm tired of some fans using it as an excuse 10 years after the fact. GET OVER IT.
I understand your point but I think you are being quite insensitive.

Seles had PTSD after her attack and eating disorder from what I understood from her book.

How would you feel if the same happened to you someone told you to 'get over it' ?

No one is offering excuses, we are just focusing on the positive - ie. she's still on a tennis court, playing to a high standard etc. Not everything is about results.


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'That is bullshit. You talk as if you know how Serena would react, she will definitely not be "more" motivated. Even Agassi said that if he had gone through everything Monica went through, he would never still be playing and that she's the athlete he admires the most.'

Didn't you just do the same thing when you said that you believed Serena wouldn't have the motivation to return to the court?


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It is very upsetting to see someone telling Monica to 'get over it'. I believe she has put it behind her, she's too strong a person to re-live that experience forever. But something like that never leaves you. The physical scars heal the emotional ones take much longer.
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I agree with that luna. I think for those that say she should get over it should go and read her book. She details the experience as if you were right there with her, and it's pretty horrifying what she went through.
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Well, results have shown how much Monica can gain if she lost just a little weight, like in summer last year. She lost 5-8 pounds and had many spectacular wins. But whether she is willing to try to lose weight, is another thing. We'll have to weight and see if she going to dedicate herself in that department.

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Monica and Lindsay are two different people. Monica is currently on the tour, and nutrition and fitness is really hard to keep up with when you are constantly playing tournament. Lindsay, has been recuperating from surgery, she basically has spent the last 7 months in a gym recovering and getting fit. When monica was injured, she came back and looked incredibly fit.

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Oh come on are we gonna rely on this again?

How can you say Monica did not drop pounds is the last 5 years? After she was doublebageled by Hingis in Ericsson 00 she had a goal to drop 25 pounds! By the US Open, she was halfway there!

She looks nice and she's on the top of her game after the accident. Take a break

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I have mixed feelings on this...

I agree w/everyone that it's truly amazing and inspirational how Monica was able to come up after such a horrific thing happened to her. She's still playing at a very high level despite being "old" by tennis standards, and when she's on, she can beat anybody. Despite not being very physically fit, she can withstand 3 set matches well and you will almost never see a low ranked player upset her...

HOWEVER,
Because she is my favorite player, (I'm over Bradshaw lol) it kills me to watch her play the top 3. Does she realize that all she needs to do is spend extra time on fitness? Does she enjoy being the Mary Joe Fernandez of the late 90s and early 00s, consistently getting to the quarters of grand slams and never getting further, beating who she is supposed to beat, and seldom anyone ranked higher than her. She has to be aware that she would win a grand slam if she would drop 10 pounds, or at least a favorite to win it, rather than a dark horse. It's her choice to do so though, and after almost 15 years on tour, one would expect she knows what she is doing. I just really wish she do what Mary Pierce did before the 95 Australian and hire some one to work with her EXCLUSIVELY on movement. Fuck the personal trainer, nutritionist, blah blah blah. Just get a drill seargent type for 2-3 months. If she does not want to do, thats fine with me. However, after all that she's been through, she doesn't want to hurt out there during practice. The process of winning Grand Slams hurt. It's a LOT of hard work, and I'm not sure if Monica wants that.
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Is it possible for Monica's fans to both keep bringing focus to the stabbing, yet focus on the positive and present? Note please, I'm not talking about Monica herself.

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CB - Are you saying you see no need for her to lose weight, and no advantage she might gain BY losing weight?

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