Hingis lacking motivation - TennisForum.com
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:33 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Wannabeknowitall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA USA
Posts: 17,274
                     
Hingis lacking motivation

I just don't know why she's out there.

Like a Jankovic there are going to be times where she's going to have to fight and use her experience to grind out a win.

Unlike Jankovic I'm not seeing the effort.

I don't know how long Martina is not going to be around.
We might find ourselves another player taking a "long break".

Discuss.

"Everybody always said I didn't get that job because my wife is white. If you're not strong enough to look through that then you have the issue."
-Charlie Strong, assistant head coach of the Florida Gators

Black presidents of the US=1
Black head coaches in the SEC=0
Something needs to change.
Wannabeknowitall is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:35 PM
Senior Member
 
Legend97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,032
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

She was physically tired.

Im sure she did not want to get bageled sir...that is motivation enough to play hard.

Melanie Oudin Fan est. July '09
------------------------------------------------------------
Steffi Fan est. 1997 GOAT
------------------------------------------------------------
Hingis Fan est. 1996 LEGEND
------------------------------------------------------------
Masha Fan est. 2009 WTA $ QUEEN
------------------------------------------------------------
Legend97 is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:38 PM
Senior Member
 
hingis-seles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,167
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

I don't see where the lack of motivation is coming from. She and the rest of the world know what her weaknesses are. She's not willing to put in the time and the effort to work on them. She can't possible expect any more than what she's getting. Is she lazy?

It seems to me it's more of a case not having that burning desire to win. She wants to win, but it's not like a Graf or a Seles, who despised losing and threw everything but the kitchen sink. Even in her post-stabbing form, Seles was never this bad. I've always suspected this, and Melanie Molitor to an extent confirms this [in S.L Price's recent article on Martina being a has-been].

FUCK YOU, SEWTA.
[/SIZE]
hingis-seles is offline  
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:43 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: florida
Posts: 24,742
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

She honestly seems a step slower. I'm wondering about her injury.

-one of those "bad" Williams fans that everyone keeps talking about


OFFICIAL BLACKSMITH OF THE ROYAL COURT

I don't mind straight people as long as they act gay in public!
Pureracket is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:45 PM
Original Queen, Majestic V!
 
ico4498's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Roundiway
Posts: 4,899
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

Quote:
Originally Posted by hingis-seles View Post
She's not willing to put in the time and the effort to work on them. She can't possible expect any more than what she's getting.
thats the word coming from her own people. Melanie was frank enough to say she has to win in straight sets, her level of fitness gives her little chance in 3 setters.

ico4498 is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:46 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 583
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

It's not like she was in perfect form, though. I mean, I would worry if Martina was at her best and still lose. She clearly was unfit. I'm not a fan in denial, but we just can't say it was the best Martina out there.
lynch79 is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 10:50 PM
Senior Member
 
Olórin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 13,797
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

This all begs the question imo, why did Martina comeback? Was it purely for the love of playing? Was it to add more weeks as number one to her tally? Was it to win the FO or indeed any slam again? Was it because she believed she could be the best.

Because at the moment NONE of these reasons seem to be revealing themselves in her play. Perhaps she's had her comeback and that's enough. She's proved she can still beat anyone on a given day, she just can't beat everyone regularly, and at the moment she can't seem to win regularly As someone who has enjoyed wathching Martina play since 1997, it hurts me to see her embarassing herself like this. And if she doesn't want it, then imo she needs to re-evaluate things, and if things can't improve, then retire.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alla Luce View Post
(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
Olórin is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 11:01 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Wannabeknowitall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA USA
Posts: 17,274
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

Quote:
Originally Posted by ico4498 View Post
thats the word coming from her own people. Melanie was frank enough to say she has to win in straight sets, her level of fitness gives her little chance in 3 setters.
I don't see that as a big issue.
The same thing went for Lindsay Davenport for years and yet she was still ranked number one in 2006.
If you got Lindsay in a three setter and it was a top player, likely it's over for Lindsay at a slam.

At least in Lindsay's case it was that she tried everything and had nothing left.

"Everybody always said I didn't get that job because my wife is white. If you're not strong enough to look through that then you have the issue."
-Charlie Strong, assistant head coach of the Florida Gators

Black presidents of the US=1
Black head coaches in the SEC=0
Something needs to change.
Wannabeknowitall is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 11:18 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 19,981
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

It's disappointing if she doesn't want to work her weaknesses. She may as well stop playing, unless she enjoys taking beatings like the one today.




"I wish I were as aggressive and serious as those floors too!!" - GOAT Cynthia Zimmerman
cellophane is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 11:18 PM
Original Queen, Majestic V!
 
ico4498's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Roundiway
Posts: 4,899
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serena-#1-Fan View Post
This all begs the question imo, why did Martina comeback?
that question compliments the OP's critique of her motivation.

while commentating on a Venus match, during her "retirement", Martina said that she'd never want to struggle, as Venus was during that comeback match.

to answer your question; i think Hingis saw depleted draws and correctly concluded that with luck her chances at another slam weren't horrible. where she went tragically awry? underestimating the players still needing to make their bones.

her commitment/motivation will ultimately become clear. at this point, way too early to make a definitive decision either way.

most players lose after a protracted absence.

ico4498 is offline  
post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old Sep 1st, 2007, 11:27 PM
Original Queen, Majestic V!
 
ico4498's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Roundiway
Posts: 4,899
                     
Re: Hingis lacking motivation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wannabeknowitall View Post
I don't see that as a big issue.
The same thing went for Lindsay Davenport for years and yet she was still ranked number one in 2006.
If you got Lindsay in a three setter and it was a top player, likely it's over for Lindsay at a slam.

At least in Lindsay's case it was that she tried everything and had nothing left.
see though, LD has weapons that are less dependent on fitness/stamina.

Martina strengths are most effective if she can force another shot from her opponent ... that requires fitness.

ico4498 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome