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BUd Collins, Althea Gibson, and an FCC moment

Was catching a radio interview with Bud Collins earlier today. Re Althea Gibson, he said the same thing Richard Williams did. "They should have done this when she was alive." However, what really struck me was his quote of the man who played and won the mixed title at the US (I think) with Gibson. That was (I think) Kurt Neilsen. Collins apparently interviewed him recently.

Now remember, I'm in the car, listening to the radio. And Collins is telling the story, quoting Neilsen.
"Now you have to remember, I lived in Miami. SO when I got back how, people asked, 'why did you play with that ******', and I replied, I didn't play with a ******. I played with a wonderful young lady and a great champion.'
God love Bud Collins. He had no need to apologize for his language, or qualify his speech. He quoted the guy, profanity and all, probably with no thought at all to FCC restrictions. SO why can he use that kind of language, and it isn't offensive, when with so many people it would be? a) he said in a discussion of the racism Gibson faced in tennis. b) The dude doesn't have a mean bone in his body.

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Was catching a radio interview with Bud Collins earlier today. Re Althea Gibson, he said the same thing Richard Williams did. "They should have done this when she was alive." However, what really struck me was his quote of the man who played and won the mixed title at the US (I think) with Gibson. That was (I think) Kurt Neilsen. Collins apparently interviewed him recently.

Now remember, I'm in the car, listening to the radio. And Collins is telling the story, quoting Neilsen.
"Now you have to remember, I lived in Miami. SO when I got back how, people asked, 'why did you play with that ******', and I replied, I didn't play with a ******. I played with a wonderful young lady and a great champion.'
God love Bud Collins. He had no need to apologize for his language, or qualify his speech. He quoted the guy, profanity and all, probably with no thought at all to FCC restrictions. SO why can he use that kind of language, and it isn't offensive, when with so many people it would be? a) he said in a discussion of the racism Gibson faced in tennis. b) The dude doesn't have a mean bone in his body.

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Was catching a radio interview with Bud Collins earlier today. Re Althea Gibson, he said the same thing Richard Williams did. "They should have done this when she was alive." However, what really struck me was his quote of the man who played and won the mixed title at the US (I think) with Gibson. That was (I think) Kurt Neilsen. Collins apparently interviewed him recently.

Now remember, I'm in the car, listening to the radio. And Collins is telling the story, quoting Neilsen.
"Now you have to remember, I lived in Miami. SO when I got back how, people asked, 'why did you play with that ******', and I replied, I didn't play with a ******. I played with a wonderful young lady and a great champion.'
God love Bud Collins. He had no need to apologize for his language, or qualify his speech. He quoted the guy, profanity and all, probably with no thought at all to FCC restrictions. SO why can he use that kind of language, and it isn't offensive, when with so many people it would be? a) he said in a discussion of the racism Gibson faced in tennis. b) The dude doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
Context.

You really don't grasp that concept?

I'm calling bullshit, you can't be that dense.

He's accurately recalling an "historical" event in an attempt to show a man's heroism in the face of racism. Using the actual racist terminology is more than just fair use in this context. Just like using the N-word in Roots or any other historical drama or documentary.

Also the N-word isn't a FCC violation, Howard Stern used it or allowed others to use it all the time without a single fine and he got fined for plenty of other stuff.

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Dammit, Volcana, will you please stop being so fair and reasonable? You're taking all the fun out of this group!

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Context.

You really don't grasp that concept?

I'm calling bullshit, you can't be that dense.

He's accurately recalling an "historical" event in an attempt to show a man's heroism in the face of racism. Using the actual racist terminology is more than just fair use in this context. Just like using the N-word in Roots or any other historical drama or documentary.

Also the N-word isn't a FCC violation, Howard Stern used it or allowed others to use it all the time without a single fine and he got fined for plenty of other stuff.
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Was catching a radio interview with Bud Collins earlier today. Re Althea Gibson, he said the same thing Richard Williams did. "They should have done this when she was alive." However, what really struck me was his quote of the man who played and won the mixed title at the US (I think) with Gibson. That was (I think) Kurt Neilsen. Collins apparently interviewed him recently.

Now remember, I'm in the car, listening to the radio. And Collins is telling the story, quoting Neilsen.
"Now you have to remember, I lived in Miami. SO when I got back how, people asked, 'why did you play with that ******', and I replied, I didn't play with a ******. I played with a wonderful young lady and a great champion.'
God love Bud Collins. He had no need to apologize for his language, or qualify his speech. He quoted the guy, profanity and all, probably with no thought at all to FCC restrictions. SO why can he use that kind of language, and it isn't offensive, when with so many people it would be? a) he said in a discussion of the racism Gibson faced in tennis. b) The dude doesn't have a mean bone in his body.

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