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The top ten based on avg. points per tournament

1) Justine 349.07
2) Serena 279.62
3) Maria 256.33
4) Venus 147.08
5) Sveta 142.85
6) Ana 142.85
7) Amelie 134.66
8) JJ 122.46 And she wants to bitch about Sharapova's rank?
9) Nicole 122.00
10)Anna 117.54


Nadia, Daniela and Bartoli are at 93.25, 78.72 and 63.48


It appears that the ranking system is designed to make the players play more, but that hasn't improved the quality of play, or the stature of the tour.

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Re: The top ten based on avg. points per tournament

Not really, if you look at the top players (i.e. those with serious aspirations to winning every slam they enter) they all have light schedules. 17 tournaments is not an unrealistic cut off, only a handful of the top 30 play less than that - most play 21-25.

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the average doesn't work. If some USOpen WC like Audra Cohen (who has about 3 tours right now on her ranking) won the USOpen then they'd almost surely be #1. Does that mean the quality is there, NO! she'll have only played 1 WTA tournament.

Daniela Hantuchova
Magdalena Rybarikova
Dechy - Radwanska - Petkovic
Cornet - Zakopalova - Cirstea
Lisicki - Medina Garrigues - Bondarenko
K.Kucova - Cibulkova - Wienerova
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Also this means nothing because what if a player like Justine played a tier III and won it. that would be what 150ish points? it would make her average go down even though she won the tournament

Daniela Hantuchova
Magdalena Rybarikova
Dechy - Radwanska - Petkovic
Cornet - Zakopalova - Cirstea
Lisicki - Medina Garrigues - Bondarenko
K.Kucova - Cibulkova - Wienerova
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the average doesn't work. If some USOpen WC like Audra Cohen (who has about 3 tours right now on her ranking) won the USOpen then they'd almost surely be #1. Does that mean the quality is there, NO! she'll have only played 1 WTA tournament.
Also you have to ask the question if say Venus had to play as many tournaments as Ana and Sveta would she keep that average? Nope, she gets the success she does through the schedule she has.

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If we used this ranking system, we'd have much better SFs and Fs.

Venus vs. Justine
Maria vs. Serena

Not bad.

Let them eat cake.
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everyone knows wta is about quantity and not quality....maybe if they were then the'd actually get people who "care"

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Also you have to ask the question if say Venus had to play as many tournaments as Ana and Sveta would she keep that average? Nope, she gets the success she does through the schedule she has.
The point is they don't have to play that many tournaments? I think both of them would rather have a slam title and play less.

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If we used this ranking system, we'd have much better SFs and Fs.

Venus vs. Justine
Maria vs. Serena

Not bad.
Those would be better....I'd pay to see those....as well as Ana

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1 HENIN, JUSTINE BEL 2,716,410
2 WILLIAMS, SERENA USA 1,799,034
3 WILLIAMS, VENUS USA 1,505,523
4 IVANOVIC, ANA SRB 1,475,620
5 JANKOVIC, JELENA SRB 1,437,780
6 SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS 1,201,149
7 KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS 1,078,844
8 BARTOLI, MARION FRA 950,416
9 HANTUCHOVA, DANIELA SVK 813,030
10 CHAKVETADZE, ANNA RUS 795,432

- going on prize money. For a Williams fan thought you'd pimp that...

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Hantuchova : Goerges : Johansson : Rybarikova : Li

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Zakopalova : Lucic : Krajicek : Cetkovska : Cibulkova
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Re: The top ten based on avg. points per tournament

the calculated results above are incorrect for players who played more than 17 tournaments. you can't simply take the number of points gained in their best 12 results and mandatory tournaments and then divide it through the number of tournaments played overall.
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the old rank worked that if you had played less than 14 tourns, then your total pts would still be divided by 14.

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People should praise Jankovic for playing that much and supporting the tour instead of bitching about it all the time.
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1) Justine 349.07
2) Serena 279.62
3) Maria 256.33
4) Venus 147.08
5) Sveta 142.85
6) Ana 142.85
7) Amelie 134.66
8) JJ 122.46 And she wants to bitch about Sharapova's rank?
9) Nicole 122.00
10)Anna 117.54


Nadia, Daniela and Bartoli are at 93.25, 78.72 and 63.48


It appears that the ranking system is designed to make the players play more, but that hasn't improved the quality of play, or the stature of the tour.
Wrong!

Jankovic = 4108/28 = 146.71 pts per tour

You should've figured out how the ranking works before posting these "averages".
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1 HENIN, JUSTINE BEL 2,716,410
2 WILLIAMS, SERENA USA 1,799,034
3 WILLIAMS, VENUS USA 1,505,523
4 IVANOVIC, ANA SRB 1,475,620
5 JANKOVIC, JELENA SRB 1,437,780
6 SHARAPOVA, MARIA RUS 1,201,149
7 KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS 1,078,844
8 BARTOLI, MARION FRA 950,416
9 HANTUCHOVA, DANIELA SVK 813,030
10 CHAKVETADZE, ANNA RUS 795,432

- going on prize money. For a Williams fan thought you'd pimp that...
If you are referring to me I"m a Venus Williams fan. All of the top players are pretty well off prize money while important means little in historical context.

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