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Lilia Osterloh not getting a USO wildcard = absolutely outrageous

She BARELY missed the main draw cutoff in July, but since then has reached the quarters at Cincinnati and Stanford (including beating Bartoli), and then qualified for/reached the 2nd round of Los Angeles.

In four weeks, her ranking went from #112 to #76 and she STILL didn't get a main draw wildcard. I work with Lilia's best friend at ABC and she said that Lilia flew to New York today to prepare for the qualifying, where she will be the top seed. She was pissed off and rightfully so.

Julie Ditty got screwed as well. The USTA always gives a main draw wildcard to the american woman who racks up the most points on the USTA pro circuit during the year. Now that a 28 year old woman did the best on the circuit, they decide they're not going to give out the wildcard anymore and Julie is stuck playing qualifying.

The USTA really needs to re-evaluate who they give these wildcards too. Lilia had the best summer out of any American woman in singles and got NOTHING.
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World #77 and 78 both playing quals.

Lilia should have gotten a WC, she has racked up WTA tour level wins recently, something almost none of the other recipients can say.
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Re: Lilia Osterloh not getting a USO wildcard = absolutely outrageous

Yes. I can see why they want to give most of the WCs to young players but there is a limit and making someone with Osterloh's recent results play qualies at her home GS when she would thrash any one of the players given WCs is ridiculous.
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I like the move. Osterloh will benefit her ranking going through qualifying and doesn't need the leg-up that the youngsters do.

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I like the move. Osterloh will benefit her ranking going through qualifying and doesn't need the leg-up that the youngsters do.
Assuming it's a given that she gets through qualifying.
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Theres somthing wrong when you see the #1 seed ( from the USA ) in the US Open Qualifying with a #76 ranking and the #2 seed ( non usa player ) with a ranking almost 20 spots below her. Lilia has been a big part of the Ustas player development program over the past 12 years. You just don't THROW AWAY players when they get to a certain age. She has been working her ass off in challengers over the past few years to get her game back to where it was when she reached the 4th rd of both Wimbledon and the US Open. I am still really upset to talk about it in detail any further. Hopefully she can Qualify and then win a rd or 2 in the MD.
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Assuming it's a given that she gets through qualifying.
Well even if she doesn't, even winning one match in qualifying (which she usually does) is better for her than just getting knocked out in the 1st round.

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Certainly sucks, but maybe it's for the better...

She could have drawn Henin first round and gotten 1 point, maybe this way she'll qualify, get 20 points, and maybe get a cake draw vs. Poutchkova, Rodionova or Pennetta


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I agree... She should've got that WC given her decent results this summer.

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Well even if she doesn't, even winning one match in qualifying (which she usually does) is better for her than just getting knocked out in the 1st round.
Disagree. As long as she doesn't get a top seed she has a decent chance of winning one match in the MD for 60 points and $$$.
1st round win in quali is only worth 15 points, and she gets even less for the next two rounds.
With the current ranking system it is much more valuable to be in the MD directly. Much bigger pay-off if you actually win.
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Certainly sucks, but maybe it's for the better...

She could have drawn Henin first round and gotten 1 point, maybe this way she'll qualify, get 20 points, and maybe get a cake draw vs. Poutchkova, Rodionova or Pennetta
There's no way to put a positive spin on this. Bad draws are simply part of tennis. She could get an amazing junior player in the first round of qualifying and lose. She could get a joke draw to the 4th round in the main draw if all the seeds start falling.

The bottom line is that the wild cards are (or should be) the USTA's way of acknowledging strong results. If an American woman under the age of 22 had the same results that Lilia did this summer, they would've gotten a wildcard with no questions asked.

There's also a money factor that goes with the wild card as well. Players like Lilia aren't exactly raking it in. The $15,000 she would get for simply playing in the main draw would go a long way.
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1st round win in quali is only worth 15 points, and she gets even less for the next two rounds.
With the current ranking system it is much more valuable to be in the MD directly. Much bigger pay-off if you actually win.
Exactly, but she has a much bigger chance of actually winning in the qualifiers. I thought that was the point of wildcards, to give it to those who wouldn't get in otherwise. Lilia certainly can, given her form probably will get in the main draw anyway and then has the extra points for doing so. She's beaten Craybas, an exhausted Bartoli and a Molik who had won 3 matches since March - that's her record beating people ranked higher than her this summer. She's been exemplary getting rid of lesser opponents, let that continue and don't risk her getting a bad draw (pretty much 1 in 2 chance) when she's almost guaranteed something out of qualifying.

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Definitely bad choices on the WCs this year



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Exactly, but she has a much bigger chance of actually winning in the qualifiers. I thought that was the point of wildcards, to give it to those who wouldn't get in otherwise. Lilia certainly can, given her form probably will get in the main draw anyway and then has the extra points for doing so. She's beaten Craybas, an exhausted Bartoli and a Molik who had won 3 matches since March - that's her record beating people ranked higher than her this summer. She's been exemplary getting rid of lesser opponents, let that continue and don't risk her getting a bad draw (pretty much 1 in 2 chance) when she's almost guaranteed something out of qualifying.
I get what you are saying, but I can't imagine that this is what the USTA was thinking when handing out the WC's.
At least it shouldn't be, because it's not objective. So yeah, she's been good at dispatching lower-ranked players so her chance of getting through qualies is better than average. But that's no reason to deny her a MD WC, let alone to believe they're doing her a favour.
They should look strictly at the results and ranking. Of course age plays a role too. But if they decide that's desering a WC then she should get one even if playing quali might have some advantages.
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