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Statisticians / Rank experts :help:

Assuming Venus does not play New Haven, what kind of result does she have to get at the USO to get into the top 10. Which players should we (Venus fans) be hoping lose early?
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SF... not less!

But for her is more important to be TOP8 in november and she is already #8 at YEC RACE.

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i doubt she will play YEC even if she makes it

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i doubt she will play YEC even if she makes it
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i think both venus and serena will play YEC if they qualify and are healthy i think there keen to show they are 'the' major force in womens tennis and being there would prove this as they can bring quality not quantity to there tennis!

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SF... not less!

But for her is more important to be TOP8 in november and she is already #8 at YEC RACE.
REALLY? That far? Even if Vaidisova, Hantuchova etc lose early?

Well then, i just hope she is top 10 year end, it's been a LONG while. In fact, when was the last time Venus played YEC? 2002?
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REALLY? That far? Even if Vaidisova, Hantuchova etc lose early?

Well then, i just hope she is top 10 year end, it's been a LONG while. In fact, when was the last time Venus played YEC? 2002?
If Hantuchova lose already in 3rd round, Venus still must reach SF if want to overtake her.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

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Nicole only made the 3rd round last year and Daniela only made the 2nd round, so they have little to defend.

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Nicole only made the 3rd round last year and Daniela only made the 2nd round, so they have little to defend.
Venus is already better ranked player than Nicole - problem is #10 Hantuchova (Dani have more than 200 pts more than Venus or Nicole right now - and for GS QF player will reach 250 points).

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What she needs to do is hire Tonya Harding and her husband, and then bash Daniela's kneecaps in, and then she wouldn't have to worry about reaching a certain stage. J/K. I love Daniela, but this seems like the perfect time to bring up a Nancy Kerrigan moment.

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REALLY? That far? Even if Vaidisova, Hantuchova etc lose early?

Well then, i just hope she is top 10 year end, it's been a LONG while. In fact, when was the last time Venus played YEC? 2002?
2002 was the last time Venus played. Venus hasn't qualified for the YEC since 2004.
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Venus has never prioritized the YEC. I can even remember her skipping it when she qualified. She didn't even play in 2000 or 2001. She's only ever played it twice.

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Cp6uja is pretty much right. If Dani gets to :

Non-QF NH & 1st round Open : -13 points = 1955
Venus will have to make the Quarterfinal : 250pts = 2015
- That's extremely unrealistic though.

QF NH & 2nd-4th round Open : +35, +22/+52/+102 = 2025/2055/2105
Venus will have to make the Semifinal : 450 points = 2215
- This is a pretty conservative bracket and means she can go 2-2 combined in both tournaments and still leave Venus needing a semi to overtake her.

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I hope Venus draws Daniela quite early on, then she can get rid of her sharpish and hopefully move into the top ten.

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I hope Venus draws Daniela quite early on, then she can get rid of her sharpish and hopefully move into the top ten.
that's not likely because daniela is now #10 & venus is #12 (projected rankings)
so that will probably be their seedings for the USO, #9 til #12 can't meet before the semi's
patty can jump over venus, so that would make V the 13th seed, which means that daniela-venus could only happen in the quarterfinal or later
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