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Arent' There African Players on the Tour?

I am all for The williams family helping out in several african countries by starting tennis clinics, but aren't there already players from different african countries? What about the Black family? There from zimbabwe, right? Aren't they doing anything to help african tennis thrive?

Or what about amanda coetzer and all those other south africans from the mens tour? What are they doing to help african tennis?
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Maybe the racial rift in Africa is too big for any non-black African to make a difference amoung the black Africans?

I don't know but it is a good question. What are they doing for their continent or country even? Maybe they are doing a lot. I have no clue. Maybe some of their fans will come in here and let us know what their favs do charity wise?
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Amanda is playing exhibitions and doing clinics in South Africa on regular basis with invited players ( last year - Kournikova, several years before - Steffi ). Amanda does a lot.

I do not know if Black family is doing anything right now, because Mugabe destroyed the country and no one is perhaps interested in tennis over there right now. But few years ago Blacks had a tennis school over there and there were a lot of African youngsters in that school. I remember watching TV program about that on South African TV years ago.

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Ys is correct I think it's very difficult for the Black's to give anything back to Zimbabwe at this point.

I think the world should keep an eye on Morocco. It is producing a lot of new players including women.
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Black Africa is facing 80% of the world's AIDS cases, economies wrecked by colonialism plus its aftermath, and mass starvation. My guess is most of those countries can't spare the resources to produce tennis players.

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Do we have anyone from Zimbabwe on this board ?
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Black Africa is facing 80% of the world's AIDS cases, economies wrecked by colonialism plus its aftermath, and mass starvation. My guess is most of those countries can't spare the resources to produce tennis players.
Was Zimbabwe's economy wrecked by colonialism? Was Zambia's economy wrecked by colonialism? In opposite, it was wrecked by savages who replaced colonial rulers.


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I believe the posters with name African-African is from Zim..

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Ys, I forgive for your ignorance on the subject of Africa. I do take offense to your choice of words, especially labeling black africans "savages". If you knew anything about the situation in Zambia, you would know that its economy based on textiles was wiped out in 1991 by an intentional inundation of Western clothing which shut down every single textile factory and business, the ensuing dependency would suggest that post-colonial plotting and European market leaders were the savages."
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Was Zimbabwe's economy wrecked by colonialism? Was Zambia's economy wrecked by colonialism? In opposite, it was wrecked by savages who replaced colonial rulers.
First let me say that I don't condone killing of anyone but there wouldn't be white people to throw off land if colonialism didn't first come and steal land from the natives and give it to colonials, now would there? History doesn't just start today and turmoil doesn't just happen over night. It is a mess over there and its all their faults.
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Please do not put your words into my mouth.. I *do* *not* label black africans savages. I label Mr. Mugabe and Mr. Kaunda as savages.
What textile has got to do with Zambia's economic troubles? Was it Western clothing who turned the world biggest copper producer into copper importer?

Mugabe inherited from colonialists the second best economy of sub-Saharan African. To his credit, it took whole 2 decades from him to destroy it..

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Mugabe inherited from colonialists the second best economy of sub-Saharan African. To his credit, it took whole 2 decades from him to destroy it..
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Best? For whom? Obviously not the majority of the population, which would be a clear sign that it was a pretty shitty economy
to benefit so few.
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You know, just five years ago Zimbabwe was a country with decent economy, decent educational system and pretty decent standards of living ( by African standards, of course ), a lot of tourism, one of the biggest tobacco producers in the world, good other kinds of agriculture, very relaxed interracial relationships. While in RSA it was already pretty tense at times, at Zim it was still very relaxed. Our company had quite a bit of business with Zimbabwean farmers, and folks from Zim were suggesting that I should move to Zim, that it is as good as RSA, that Harare is a mini-Johannesbourg and living there is fun. But within these 5 years Mugabe destroyed the economy almost completely. I am still puzzled why he did that - it was not necessary, he was under no political pressure to do that. He just did it by his own will.

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Also, Randriantefy, but she is from Madagaskar, not really a continental Africa. Eggy, we are mostly talking about non-Arab Africa.. Arab Africa has much better standards of living than the rest of Africa and much better conditions for tennis or other sport development. They however have to face some other adversity - in most of their respective countries women are not, well, that equal to men..

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ys, you might want to consider the "mess" in Russia and ask your self if "savages" are the cause of the majority of Russians now living in poverty and lawlessness...

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