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Venus has 6 Slams, Lindsay has 3, but...

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#1 ·
Lindsay has won more of the Slams. Lindsay has The Australian Open, Wimbledon and The U.S Open, whilst Venus has just Wimbledon and The U.S Open. So Lindsay is able to say, I won 3 of the 4 Slams whilst Venus is only able t say she won 2 of the 4 Slams.
 
#7 ·
Different slam, different atmosphere, different surface.
I see a dominance with the Australian Open.
Four of the biggest winners of the Australian Open in the last twenty years, Graf, Seles, Hingis, Serena have continued to show dominance on the tour after that slam.

Basically if you can prepare for the Australian heat and painful blisters that come with winning that slam, there's no reason you can't do it for the rest of the year.

They're two different designs of players though.
Lindsay game might not have been as high percentage as it could have been, but she maximized as much as she could and she focused towards probably more of the year.
She had more peaks and valleys during the season, most of the peaks being on hardcourt, grass and indoors, while the valleys being the red clay season.

Venus' game might not be as high percentage as it should be, but she focused towards the middle of the summer, Wimbledon and the US Open.

If anyone would have told Lindsay she would have 3 slams at the end of her career and be the season ending number one player, she probably would have laughed.

If anyone would have told Venus that she would have more slams than Martina Hingis ten years ago, she probably wouldn't believe it at first but after the 1997 US Open final who knows.

They both have done well in their own way and style.
 
#5 ·
It depends on what you consider "better." Venus has more majors, which people like us remember, but Lindsay has more prize money, which is what they REALLY play for.
 
#8 ·
Well Lindsay double bagelled Sharapova and that's all that matters. :lol:
 
#19 ·
They've had two completely different careers its hard to compare really because they are really different Lindsay has more prize money, been number 1 longer, and has won 3 of the 4 slams

Venus is in the top 10 of career prize money and has had more endorsements, achieved the number 1 ranking, and has been to the finals of all 4 slams and has won 6

they really arent comparable honestly because if you look at certain facts Lindsay is better but others Venus is better for me personally Venus is ahead because shes won more slams and has beaten Lindsay in the finals for 3 of them and when you look at who was the greatest player you usually are counting their slams not how much prize money they have or if they have been number 1 for the longest cuz just because you are number 1 doesnt mean you are winning slams and Lindsay is proof of that
 
#23 ·
Some of you guys, seriously, do you truely believe the rational of your comments? These threads are just meaningless. And prize money should not be the factor between these two. First of all, Lindsay is older and has played longer (which has already been said). Also, Venus just doesn't play enough in a year to represent what she's truly worth as a player. At the end of the day, though, if you say the name Lindsay Davenport and Venus Williams...I'm sure more people will recognize Venus Williams than Lindsay Davenport.
 
#29 ·
So you go on about how prize money shouldn't be a 'factor' then come out with:

At the end of the day, though, if you say the name Lindsay Davenport and Venus Williams...I'm sure more people will recognize Venus Williams than Lindsay Davenport.
And this should be a 'factor'? Why? :confused:

Dumb thread. Any other player would take 6 Slams including 4 Wimbledon titles over 3 different ones anyday.
 
#24 ·
I have no clue if this has been said already, the first thing that came to my mind was 'but Venus made every Grand Slam Final'. Venus might have had the Venus Slam if she hadn't faced Serena in every single one of those finals.

Plus, winning Wimbledon four times is far more impressive than winning three different Grand Slams once if you ask me.
 
#30 ·
Venus hasn't played as much as Lindsay but she has had more success where it has counted, at the slams, and that is what the majority of eople remember. Lindsay is soooo much better than 3 slams....she should have had a lot more with her ability, shame she wasn't a better athlete.
 
#32 ·
Hon, I have an Oscar, two Golden Globes, a NY Films Critics Circle, and the Cannes Best Actress, which Sally Field doesn't have, but she has two Oscars, so people regard her as better. I've learned to live with it, so Lindsay can, too!
Yes but many people hold Mrs Doubtfire against her meaning that for them, you probably win the race overall Helen.

The same can't be said for Lindsay though I concede.
 
#38 ·
They've had very different careers. First of all, Venus isn't finished with hers. Second, I don't think Lindsay's one Aussie win sets her apart. If she'd won the French too, that argument would mean more to me. Nonetheless, in many other ways Lindsay's career is more impressive...such as her multiple long streaks as #1 in the world.

I love both players, and I think they're both great in different ways.

SF
 
#42 ·
To call Lindsay an underachiever is really unfair. Fifty one wins, 100 weeks at #1, 21 million in prize money, and 3 Salams on different surfaces is a great achievement. Venus is simply the better natural athlete and tougher in the Slam finals. Lindsay has beaten Venus in Slams, but not in the finals. At their best I would rate Venus as the slightly better player as proved in the 2005 Wimbledon final which is a great example of their tennis abilities, which is very close. Lindsay I think was the more consistant player, which is why she was as successful as she was. Both were a great credit to the game and deserve equal respect.
 
#49 ·
:worship: :worship: :worship: Great post. Easily the most intelligent post in this thread. Venus and Lindsay had a very close rivarly which reflects their abilities as tennis players. Venus is the better athlete and mentally tougher but Lindsay is the more talented player with alot more consistency. They both have achieved huge amounts in tennis. In some aspects, Venus has done more than Lindsay and vice versa. To say one is much better than the other is ludicrous.

and I think some say Lindsay underrachieved because she perhaps should have won more Grand Slams, but yes her achievements are still among the greatest of all time regardless.
 
#45 ·
Let's not forget who Venus beat in 3 of her 6 grand slam finals she won, Lindsay. Also I think it's sad davenport didn't win more she was in many finals and had a long career. And when davenport beat sharapova 6-0 6-0, it was windy and it has been said wimbledon 2007 venus vs sharapova, that sharapova doesn't play well in wind. I LOVED THAT DAVENPORT WON 6-0 6-0 THOUGH. But i feel Venus is slightly better, she's made finals at every slam and davenport won 3 of 4 slams but never did well at French(making to final). Venus has won more slams in singles. In doubles, Venus has career grand slam and davenport doesn't she needs Australian to get it. Also Venus won gold medal in singles and doubles and davenport only in singles.
 
#46 ·
Let's not forget who Venus beat in 3 of her 6 grand slam finals she won, Lindsay. Also I think it's sad davenport didn't win more she was in many finals and had a long career. And when davenport beat sharapova 6-0 6-0, it was windy and it has been said wimbledon 2007 venus vs sharapova, that she doesn't play well in wind. I LOVED THAT DAVENPORT WON 6-0 6-0 THOUGH. But i feel Venus is slightly better, she's made finals at every slam and davenport won 3 of 4 slams but never did well at French(making to final). Venus has won more slamsin singles, has career grand slam in doubles and davenport doesn't she needs Australian to get it. Also Venus won gold medal in singles and doubles and davenport only in singles.
Slightly better? Venus is way better than Davenport period. 6 slams > 3slams IMO
 
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#51 ·
venus has the more impressive slam tally, lindsay is closer to a career slam.

6 slams > 3 slams
winning 3 out of 4 > winning 2 out of 4

6 slams > winning 3 out 4 slams

but a career slam would proabably be equal to 5 or 6 slams. 7 or more slams has to be greater than the career slam though.

overall lindsay has better stats in almost every important category, but since her slam total is only half to venus, venus ranks above her. it's always about the slams!
 
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