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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Jul 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM Thread Starter
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Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

Seriously, even if she spends the rest of the year battling injuries, barely playing any tournaments, losing to lower ranked players, and letting her ranking slip again, will anybody ever again seriously count her out as a major contender at slams (particularly Wimbledon)even if she looks out of form and is playing terribly?

After her Wimbledon runs in 2005 and 1007, I think you'd have to be an idiot to ever think she's finished at the highest level, no matter how bad her form is. The same could be said for Serena.
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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

You can never count a Williams out!
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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

i think no, but its not unanimous by a long shot.

its been awhile since V won something other than Wimby.

i still believe, as a past finalist of everything else, that her game translates well on multi surfaces. she just has to do it & i believe she can.

time is a friend to Venus' fans.

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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

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i think no, but its not unanimous by a long shot.

its been awhile since V won something other than Wimby.

i still believe, as a past finalist of everything else, that her game translates well on multi surfaces. she just has to do it & i believe she can.

time is a friend to Venus' fans.
Venus won in Miami...This win wasnt totally out of the blue either. only people who are anti Venus saw it that way. She came back from a wrist injury. lost to top players. chatvedaski(spell?!?!) and Jankovic on her least fav surface (clay) fought hard against Jankovic there(the hottest player on tour). Anyone watching the Game and not the players knew Venus would be hold the Wimbledon Title this week.

And to answer. there is no point. I never write off Venus, serena, or any other past champion for that matter. Because they are all capable of making a run at any point. AlA Mary Pierce the 5 year queen of grand slams....too bad she fell in 2005? twice. lol
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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

I don't think any tennis analyst or rational person wrote her off before Wimbledon.
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Venus won in Miami...This win wasnt totally out of the blue either. only people who are anti Venus saw it that way. She came back from a wrist injury. lost to top players. chatvedaski(spell?!?!) and Jankovic on her least fav surface (clay) fought hard against Jankovic there(the hottest player on tour). Anyone watching the Game and not the players knew Venus would be hold the Wimbledon Title this week.

And to answer. there is no point. I never write off Venus, serena, or any other past champion for that matter. Because they are all capable of making a run at any point. AlA Mary Pierce the 5 year queen of grand slams....too bad she fell in 2005? twice. lol
Vee never lost to Chakvetadze, they have only ever played once on clay in 2005, Venus won 6-2 6-1

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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

There isn't any point in doing so, but I can assure you it will happen again. But that's ok. I mean it's all about hype and the right now in sports. I mean there were people who were honestly picking Bartoli (at least on this board) to beat Venus. When it's quite obvious that for as good as Justine is, Venus on grass is at the very least another level or two better. Venus doesn't need people to say she's a top contender, she knows she is.

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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

i would just like to see venus win the us open or oz open before she retires just so she dosent get labled a one trick ponny (grass)
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i would just like to see venus win the us open or oz open before she retires just so she dosent get labled a one trick ponny (grass)
Well she already has, even it it was a few years back, she still did it

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Venus never lost to Anna.

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my bad guys...it was kuznetsova. I knew she lost to a string of top teners. and eventual tournament winners i most the tourny's she entered. But after seeing the way Venus stuck with Jelena at the french on her worse surface. you had to know Venus would be a force on her best surface.
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Re: Is there any point ever writing Venus off?

First of all a lot of people do not understand the game of tennis and injuries that go with being an athlete.

Do you guys realize that Venus is only just 15 months older than Serena and people say that she's too old to play. Hell, Serena will be 26 in the next few months.

Both sisters have enough game and athletic ability to play up until they are at least 33 years of age.

Lindsay was old and never won another grand slam and NO BODY said she needed to retire. So why does Venus need to retire.

Wimbledon is the "Title of Titles" It's the most coveted trophy of all the Grand Slams.

True Tennis Champions and Tennis Pundits has never written Venus off.

Even people on this board get all their opinions and clues from MJF, Carillo, Pam, Drisdale, Pat MacEnroe, and ALL the other losers who could never WIN a Grand Slam.

You never hear the true Grand Slam winners write any sister off.

These are the same commentators who ALWAYS said good things about Lindsay, despite her never winning another Grand Slam ever.

MJF's husband was Jennifer Capriati's agent and Jennifer would have 3 round sets and barely win her rounds at majors, and that same MJF would always say great things about Jennifer.

It's funny that all these other players have been playing sense last year, and NONE of them has managed to win a Wimbledon Title (Justine, Jelena,Ana, and others who you boast about when they get a win over Venus).

When Richard said that Venus was excited and he believed she was gonna win. I knew he was right.

Everyone keeps making comments based on what the commentators keeps saying because your response is "verbatem" of what they say.

When Venus struggled the first 3 games, people said bad things about her and how she was not gonna win and she should just go home.

But I keep saying that the first week isn't about blowing opponents off the court. It's about not getting eliminated, working out your game and adjusting, and NOT peaking too soon. And Venus did it in that order.

All of the other players had what one would call the better matches and they looked like the trophy should have their names already put on the trophy.

But none of them went through any tough matches to see just where their games actually were.

And ALL OF THE THEM GOT ELIMINATED THE FOLLOWING WEEK by Venus and Marion.

Venus just TRANSFORMED on center court, and the rest FADED on center court.
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thanks foxy,,,,After my acccident i could never get back to writing like this.You said everything i always wanted! thank?s again.
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i never write her off

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agree with all but the comments about MJF Foxy. MJF was the only commentator who said from week one never count Venus out with a smirk on her face( And i was smiling along with her, because I stated when Venus put up that fight against Jelena at roland garros shed win here) The other Announcers kept saying "yeah yeah, never coutn Venus out, but Henin is playing marvelous...."

I also loved the Wimbledon previews for the next day articles which were definately anti williams. did anyone else notice that. "5 champions in the field all with a chance except maybe Venus" since when does Hingis have more of a chance than Venus? or how Venus/ Serena were never mentioned as matches for the next day.

I'm loving the joke right now. really i am. The only "professionals" who believe in Venus were Venus, her father, Mary JOe, and I believe Martina picked Venus to win the title earlier in the week. (Serena doesnt count, because we all know she thought/ wanted to win)
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