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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 7th, 2002, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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Lifetime Match Records: VENUS & SERENA vs. Top Ten

How the #1 and #2 player's lifetime match records stack up against the remaining current top ten:



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VENUS vs.

SERENA ..... 5:4
Capriati ... 4:0
Seles ...... 7:1
Clijsters .. 1:1
Davenport .. 9:10
Henin ...... 6:1
Dokic ...... 2:1
Hingis ..... 9:10
Testud ..... 5:1
Mauresmo ... 4:0

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SERENA vs.

VENUS ...... 4:5
Capriati ... 6:4
Seles ...... 4:1
Clijsters .. 4:0
Davenport .. 7:2
Henin ...... 3:1
Dokic ...... 2:0
Hingis ..... 7:6
Testud ..... 5:3
Mauresmo ... 4:0
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From the records, it seems that VENUS will be anxious to play Hingis and Davenport a few more times once they return from their injury time off.

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Testud did a great job against Serena!

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Time for SERENA to get those numbers up on the top ten once more.
VENUS excepted, of course.

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The more interesting stat is the trend of the winning vs. losing. Most of thier losses to the top ten came early in their careers. Correct me if I am wrong but in the Davey and Hingis case the losses are all from years ago and both Vee and Ree own these players now.

I must admit I am not sure in the case of Vee and Hingis because they are always competitive.
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Venus vs Lindsay
YEAR Tournament Surface RD Player Score
03-03-1997 Indian Wells Hardcourt F Lindsay Davenport 6-4 5-7 -6(1)
10-13-1997 Zurich Indoor HCourt F Lindsay Davenport 6-0 6-4
01-19-1998 Australian Open Hardcourt F Lindsay Davenport 1-6 7-5 6-3
2-23-1998 Oklahoma City IndoorHCourt SF Venus Williams 6-7(5) 6-2 6-3
07-27-1998 Stanford Hardcourt F Lindsay Davenport 6-4 5-7 6-4
08-31-1998 US Open Hardcourt SF Lindsay Davenport 6-4 6-4
10-12-1998 Zurich Hardcourt F Lindsay Davenport 7-5 6-3
01-18-1999 Australian Open Hardcourt F Lindsay Davenport 6-4 6-0
07-26-1999 Stanford Hardcourt F Lindsay Davenport 7-6(1) 6-2
08-02-1999 San Diego Hardcourt SF Venus Williams 6-4 7-5
08-23-1999 New Haven Hardcourt F Venus Williams 6-2 7-5
11-08-1999 Philadelphia Indoor Carpet SF Lindsay Davenport 6-1 6-2
06-26-2000 Wimbledon Grass F Venus Williams 6-3 7-6(3)
07-24-2000 Stanford Hardcourt F Venus Williams 6-1 6-4
08-28-2000 US Open Hard Couer F Venus Williams 6-4 7-5
10-16-2000 Linz Indoor Carpet F Lindsay Davenport 6-4 3-6 6-2
06-25-2001 Wimbledon Grass SF Venus Williams 6-2 6-7(1) 6-1
07-30-2001 San Diego Hardcourt SF Venus Williams 6-2 7-5
08-20-2001 New Haven Hardcourt F Venus Williams 7-6(6) 6-4




Lindsay Davenport (USA) leads 10:9
Hard: Lindsay Davenport (USA) leads 8:7
Clay: Tied 0:0
Grass: Venus Williams (USA) leads 2:0
Indoor: Lindsay Davenport (USA) leads 4:1



Venus vs Hingis

YEAR Tournament Surface RD Player Score
03-17-1997 Key Biscayne Hardcourt 32 Martina Hingis 6-4 6-2
07-28-1997 San Diego Hardcourt 16 Martina Hingis 6-2 6-1
08-25-1997 US Open Hardcourt F Martina Hingis 6-0 6-4
01-12-1998 Sydney Hardcourt 16 Venus Williams 3-6 6-4 7-5
03-02-1998 Indian Wells Hardcourt SF Martina Hingis 0 -6 6-7(7)
03-16-1998 Key Biscayne Hardcourt SF Venus Hingis 6-2 5-7 6-2
05-04-1998 Rome Clay F Martina Hingis 6 -3 2-6 6-3
05-25-1998 Roland Garros Clay F Martina Hingis 6-3 6-4
05-03-1999 Rome Clay SF Venus Williams 6-4 1-6 6-4
08-02-1998 San Diego Hardcourt F Martina Hingis 6-4 6-0
08-30-1999 US Open Hardcourt SF Martina Hingis 6-1 4-6 6-3
09-27-1999 Munich Indoor carpet SF Venus Williams 6-2 6-7 9-7
10-11-1999 Zurich Indoor Hardcourt F Venus Williams 6-3 6-4
11-15-1999 Chase Championships Indoor Carpet SF Martina Hingis 6-4 7-6(2)
06-25-2000 Wimbledon Grass F Venus Williams 6-3 4-6 6-4
08-28-2000 US Open Hardcourt SF Venus Williams 4-6 6-3 7-5
01-15-2001 Australian Open Hardcourt SF Martina Hingis 6-1 6-1
03-19-2001 Key Biscayne Hardcourt SF Venus Williams 6-3 7-6
05-04-2002 Hamburg Clay SF Venus Williams 7-6 6-3


Martina Hingis (SUI) leads 10-9
Hard: Martina Hingis 7:5
Clay: tied 2-2
Grass: Venus Williams 1:0
Indoor: Venus Williams leads 2:1


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The top player with the best combined record against the Williams sisters is...

::drumroll::

Martina Hingis!

Of course, the Williams sisters were rusty the first few times they played. But then again, when Hingis dominated in 1997 and was all but unbeatable and in her prime, she only played Venus a few times and didn't get a shot at Serena. So it works both ways.

Still, the sisters have great records against the top 10.

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NOPE!!!!!! Lindsay Still has a winning edge over everybody except Serena.

For your Info also, during the time of Lindsay and Martina's peak. Its very seldom for them to meat the williams because they played on diffrent tournaments. these means you can only beat one williams at a time and the williams seldome played. During Venus peak, Lindsay ia always playing even if not 100 %.

As for Serena, i can admitt that she really has lindsay's number.

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Do you ever proofread Queenlindsay? sheesh!

Serena Williams (USA) vs. Lindsay Davenport (USA)
1997-11-03 Chicago Indoor Carpet SF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-4 6-4
1998-01-12 Sydney Hardcourt QF Serena Williams (USA) 1-6 7-5 7-5
1999-03-01 Indian Wells Hardcourt R32 Serena Williams (USA) 6-4 6-2
1999-08-30 U.S. Open Hardcourt SF Serena Williams (USA) 6-4 1-6 6-4
1999-09-27 Munich Indoor Carpet SF Serena Williams (USA) 6-3 6-4
2000-08-07 Los Angeles Hardcourt F Serena Williams (USA) 4-6 6-4 7-6(1)
2000-08-28 U.S. Open Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-4 6-2
2001-03-05 Indian Wells Hardcourt QF Serena Williams (USA) 6-1 6-2
2001-08-27 U.S. Open Hardcourt QF Serena Williams (USA) 6-3 6-7(7) 7-5
Serena Williams (USA) leads 7:2
Hard: Serena Williams (USA) leads 6:1
Clay: Tied 0:0
Grass: Tied 0:0
Indoor: Tied 1:1


Serena Williams (USA) vs. Martina Hingis (SUI)
1998-03-16 Key Biscayne Hardcourt QF Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-3 1-6 7-6(4)
1998-08-10 Los Angeles Hardcourt QF Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-4 6-1
1999-03-15 Key Biscayne Hardcourt SF Serena Williams (USA) 6-4 7-6(3)
1999-05-03 Rome Clay QF Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-2 6-2
1999-08-09 Los Angeles Hardcourt SF Serena Williams (USA) 6-3 7-5
1999-08-30 U.S. Open Hardcourt F Serena Williams (USA) 6-3 7-6(4)
2000-08-07 Los Angeles Hardcourt SF Serena Williams (USA) 4-6 6-2 6-3
2000-08-14 Montreal Hardcourt F Martina Hingis (SUI) 0-6 6-3 3-0 ret
2001-01-08 Sydney Hardcourt QF Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-4 7-5
2001-01-15 Australian Open Hardcourt QF Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-2 3-6 8-6
2001-08-27 U.S. Open Hardcourt SF Serena Williams (USA) 6-3 6-2
2002-02-25 Scottsdale Hardcourt SF Serena Williams (USA) 6-1 3-6 6-4
2002-03-18 Miami Hardcourt QF Serena Williams (USA) 6-4 6-0
Serena Williams (USA) leads 7:6
Hard: Serena Williams (USA) leads 7:5
Clay: Martina Hingis (SUI) leads 1:0
Grass: Tied 0:0
Indoor: Tied 0:0


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You have the proof infinity!!!!!!! You posted it.

the only player who owns lindsay is Serena from the top 10.

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Yes, but Venus has a record over Serena and Lindsay not


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Lucas arg, these is not head to head to head

rather this is HEAD TO HEAD!!!!!!

And besides I dont believed in the williams head to head. I'm not saying its fixed, but rather when they are playing against each other, they are not fighting to their full potential.

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don't try to convince QueenLindsay. this is the same poster who said Venus and Serena will never win the French Open (see "Who won't win the French Open?" thread), Kim and Justine will be ranked ahead of both sisters (i.e. "Will Clisjters and Henin...?" thread) and Venus/Serena will never be No. 1 in the world

indeed, both sisters have impressive records against everyone in the top ten.


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Yeah the won it when everyone is not there. Who else could have won it????? NO CHOICE!!!!!

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don't try to convince QueenLindsay. this is the same poster who said Venus and Serena will never win the French Open (see "Who won't win the French Open?" thread), Kim and Justine will be ranked ahead of both sisters (i.e. "Will Clisjters and Henin...?" thread) and Venus/Serena will never be No. 1 in the world

indeed, both sisters have impressive records against everyone in the top ten.
Ouch! Not a very good prognasticator!
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To the Rockhead - The Williams are two different people.
SERENA owns Hingis overall and VENUS has six of the last ten encounters with Hingis.

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