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For Venus, it's 2005 again ... with the exception of Justine.

I have little doubt now that Venus will make the final. Vaidisova/Ivanovic is another hard-hitting, slow-moving opponent which is just what she needs. Just like in 2005 she's having a very favourable path to the final.
But this time, there won't be slow-moving, big-hitting Davenport awaiting her. It will be Justine, quick and using lots of varieties.
Many have said that Venus' 2005 win was made possible by her good draw. This final will be the ultimate test of that theory. If Justine wins, the haters were right. If Venus wins, the fanatics were right.

Exciting.
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Re: For Venus, it's 2005 again ... with the exception of Justine.

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I have little doubt now that Venus will make the final. Vaidisova/Ivanovic is another hard-hitting, slow-moving opponent which is just what she needs. Just like in 2005 she'shaving a very favourable path to the final.
But this time, there won't be slow-moving, big-hitting Davenport awaiting her. It will be Justine, quick and using lots of varieties.
Many have said that Venus' 2005 win was made possible by her good draw. This final will be the ultimate test of that theory. If Justine wins, the haters were right. If Venus wins, the fanatics were right.

Exciting.
No opponent, IMO, will ever be as tough as the Davenport that Venus faced in that final. NO one.
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I have little doubt now that Venus will make the final. Vaidisova/Ivanovic is another hard-hitting, slow-moving opponent which is just what she needs. Just like in 2005 she's having a very favourable path to the final.
But this time, there won't be slow-moving, big-hitting Davenport awaiting her. It will be Justine, quick and using lots of varieties.
Many have said that Venus' 2005 win was made possible by her good draw. This final will be the ultimate test of that theory. If Justine wins, the haters were right. If Venus wins, the fanatics were right.

Exciting.
Good draw? Mary Pierce, Sharapova(defending champ) and Lindsay in the final?

compare that to justine's run to the semis, an injured Serena w/no backhand, and no other big named players.

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No opponent, IMO, will ever be as tough as the Davenport that Venus faced in that final. NO one.
Not even Rena?

I think that Justine will win, purely because she is the more consistent of the two. But Venus may very well blast her way on court. But I think that Justine will expose more of Venus' technical difficulties than Kuz and Sharapova.

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I have little doubt now that Venus will make the final. Vaidisova/Ivanovic is another hard-hitting, slow-moving opponent which is just what she needs. Just like in 2005 she's having a very favourable path to the final.
But this time, there won't be slow-moving, big-hitting Davenport awaiting her. It will be Justine, quick and using lots of varieties.
Many have said that Venus' 2005 win was made possible by her good draw. This final will be the ultimate test of that theory. If Justine wins, the haters were right. If Venus wins, the fanatics were right.

Exciting.
Good draw? Mary Pierce, Sharapova(defending champ) and Lindsay in the final?

compare that to justine's run to the semis, an injured Serena w/no backhand, and no other big named players.

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"And for the best of the teen-agers who followed her, and who occasionally referred to her as over the hill, Graf had a ready answer: against top-ranked Martina Hingis, Graf wound up 7-2. Graf's stirring 4-6, 7-5, 6-2 throttling of Hingis at the French Open final this June was perhaps the most emphatic parting shot the game has ever seen. "


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Re: For Venus, it's 2005 again ... with the exception of Justine.

Justine has nothing to do with it. Its ALL about Venus, and when she gets this far at Wimbledon, watch out!!! No sister to play so she doesn't have to worry about that. She has never lost to anyone on Centre Court besides Serena, and with Venus brushing aside Kuzzy the way she did, I'd say all those psychics who were giving Justine the trophy need to hold off until this championship is over. Venus hits a flatter, harder ball than Serena and will certainly move better. If Venus continues to play like this it will be a repeat of '05.

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Re: For Venus, it's 2005 again ... with the exception of Justine.

And Bartoli in the SF!

No disrespect to Marion, though. She has been playing awesome too.

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No opponent, IMO, will ever be as tough as the Davenport that Venus faced in that final. NO one.
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Good draw? Mary Pierce, Sharapova(defending champ) and Lindsay in the final?

compare that to justine's run to the semis, an injured Serena w/no backhand, and no other big named players.
Even excluding Sharapova and Pierce, the fact that Venus beat Davenport in the best match she ever played but lost, is still impressive.
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Justine has nothing to do with it. Its ALL about Venus, and when she gets this far at Wimbledon, watch out!!! No sister to play so she doesn't have to worry about that. She has never lost to anyone on Centre Court besides Serena, and with Venus brushing aside Kuzzy the way she did, I'd say all those psychics who were giving Justine the trophy need to hold off until this championship is over. Venus hits a flatter, harder ball than Serena and will certainly move better. If Venus continues to play like this it will be a repeat of '05.
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Who has Justine had to face thus far, besides Serena that is ?

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If Venus can serve the way she did against Sharapova, Justine could thrown everything and the kitchen sink at her, there would only be one winner

Grassonkova.
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And Bartoli in the SF!

No disrespect to Marion, though. She has been playing awesome too.
yes she has great numbers on her winners to ue's, but her serve is suspect, not sure about her movement either.

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Justine has nothing to do with it. Its ALL about Venus, and when she gets this far at Wimbledon, watch out!!! No sister to play so she doesn't have to worry about that. She has never lost to anyone on Centre Court besides Serena, and with Venus brushing aside Kuzzy the way she did, I'd say all those psychics who were giving Justine the trophy need to hold off until this championship is over. Venus hits a flatter, harder ball than Serena and will certainly move better. If Venus continues to play like this it will be a repeat of '05.
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