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Justine has a clear path to the title...unless Venus Williams is her opponent

Justine is a very clear favorite to make it to her third Wimbledon final, and the title, unless Venus Williams is across the net. The Kuz would wilt under the pressure as Justine would be in full confidence, but Venus Williams would def. put Justine on full alert, and would def. cloud the visions she has of lifting the Venus Rose Water Dish.

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Justine is a very clear favorite to make it to her third Wimbledon final, and the title, unless Venus Williams is across the net. The Kuz would wilt under the pressure as Justine would be in full confidence, but Venus Williams would def. put Justine on full alert, and would def. cloud the visions she has of lifting the Venus Rose Water Dish.
I don't think Justine will be in full confidence in the final no matter who she plays. She would have a great chance against a green, non-slam winner like Vaidisova or Ivanovic, a fair chance against up & down Sveta, and would probably have to muster something extra somehow to beat Venus.
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Justine has a clear path to the title...unless Venus Williams is her opponent

If Venus is in the final she will win..... The only person to beat her in a GS final is Serena....she knows how to step her game up..... But i agree. Its Venus or Henin.... Venus if she makes the final....
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I don't think Justine will be in full confidence in the final no matter who she plays. She would have a great chance against a green, non-slam winner like Vaidisova or Ivanovic, a fair chance against up & down Sveta, and would probably have to muster something extra somehow to beat Venus.
I agree with everything you said. It wouldn't be a good thing to see another greeney wilt under the pressure of a slam final.

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I don't think Justine will be in full confidence in the final no matter who she plays. She would have a great chance against a green, non-slam winner like Vaidisova or Ivanovic, a fair chance against up & down Sveta, and would probably have to muster something extra somehow to beat Venus.
We will see.
Venus and Henin have not played in years, and Henin is much better now that she was before.

Serena already proved her progress in her play on faster surfaces.
Still i would not get that far, Venus has to get pass Kuznetsova first which should be her biggest test in her half of the draw.

Still i am hoping for a Venus-Henin final. That would be simply amazing.. a match that we have waited for years...

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I agree with everything you said. It wouldn't be a good thing to see another greeney wilt under the pressure of a slam final.

Venus's movement was astonishing today If the final is Justine-Venus, Justine will cut most of the balls to Venus's forehand because she won't win the backhand to backhand rallies against Venus.
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Venus's movement was astonishing today If the final is Justine-Venus, Justine will cut most of the balls to Venus's forehand because she won't win the backhand to backhand rallies against Venus.
I agree, Venus has always controlled that battle against Justine. IF Venus plays like this she is the 2007 Champion.

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I agree, Venus has always controlled that battle against Justine. IF Venus plays like this she is the 2007 Champion.

Well, she has to get through Kuz first. But Kuz has not impressed me that much this tourney. And then, she has to worry about Vaidisova or Ivanovic. Vaidisova's serve could be trouble.
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I agree, Venus has always controlled that battle against Justine. IF Venus plays like this she is the 2007 Champion.
2001-2003 still?



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???
Im sure you got it..
living in the past?

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Im sure you got it..
living in the past?


Yes if what you mean by past is earlier today. There isn't another player left in the draw who could beat Venus when she's playing like she did today.

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Im sure you got it..
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You're talking about living in the past and you have a one slam wonder dinosaur in your signature.
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You're talking about living in the past and you have a one slam wonder dinosaur in your signature.
A SMOKIN' HOT one-Slam wonder dinosaur, thank you very much.....

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Yes if what you mean by past is earlier today. There isn't another player left in the draw who could beat Venus when she's playing like she did today.
Whatever

Her multiple wins against Henin between 2001-2003 won´t mean that she will definetly beat her in 2007. Players improve an eventually end up turning around head to heads, just ask Serena Williams for example.

Anyway Venus still has to play 3 more matches if she wants to get the title. Beating Sharapova does not make her the champion. Period.

Sharapova is NOT playing great tennis lately and still i don´t consider her a threat against Venus because of her movement and on grass Venus is simply the better player by miles.

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Seasons in the top ten: Sabatini 10 Conchita 9
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Sabatini 24 Martinez 17
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Sabatini has 2 titles 2 Runner up and 3 SF
Martinez has 0 titles, 0 RU, and 0 Sf
Record against the best players
Sabatini 40% Martinez 21%
Head to Head
Sabatini leads 9-6 over Martinez
FWTT Hard 111(111 + ny)Carpet 104(104 + ny)Clay 107(107 + 4) Grass 100(100 ny)
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