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Italy just finished thanking their lucky stars that Juju got injured last September and handed the Fed Cup title to them

now luck bails them out again ... lets look at the facts:

first, a huge misunderstanding on the part of the Chinese Tennis Association results in China leaving Na Li (WTA #17), Jie Zheng (WTA #33, #5 Dubs) and Yan Zi (WTA #4 Dubs) at home and sending a 2nd tier team to Italy ... Italy is missing Schiavone (their 2nd best singles player @ WTA #26)

Italy puts the tie on red clay, their best surface and the worst for the Chinese

Rubber #1: Garbin (WTA # 23) d. Sun (WTA #90) in a 3 setter

Rubber #2: Pennetta (WTA #46) d. Peng (WTA #32) saving 3 MP, when Peng is forced to retire due to serious injury ... coincidentally, last time these 2 met in the Wimbledon 2006 3R, Peng had to retire to injury

Rubber #3: Garbin (WTA #23) barely squeaks by Zhang (WTA #212) in a tight 3 setter ... Garbin was down a break in the 3rd set

so Italy wins ... but that is not very impressive for a defending champion against an under-strength team on their worst surface

here is what the result would have been if the CTA had a good translator working for them (so there would have been no understanding)

Rubber #1: Peng d. Garbin 63 63
Rubber #2: Li d. Pennetta 62 64
Rubber #3: Li d. Garbin 60 61
Rubber #4: Zheng d. Santangelo 57 76 63
Rubber #5: Zheng/Yan d. Santangelo/Vinci 62 60

but it is OK, Momo, Tati and France will embarass Italy in front of their home crowd in July ... counting down the days now
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Re: Italy Should Thank Its Lucky Stars They Beat China, Will Be Crushed By Momo,Tati

Ok. They beat China.

BTW Pennetta lost 2 straight times to To so she's far form her best level. And without that ITF autumn, Garbin would still be a top 60 player.
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Re: Italy Should Thank Its Lucky Stars They Beat China, Will Be Crushed By Momo,Tati &Co

I highly dount Na Li would beat Flavia Pennetta on a clay court for the loss of just 6 games
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Re: Italy Should Thank Its Lucky Stars They Beat China, Will Be Crushed By Momo,Tati &Co

I'm confused. Italy beat China fair and square. (Just so I can see it and comprehend it better I'm going to the type the rubbers for my self-clarification.)

Garbin def. Sun 64 26 63
Garbin def. Zhang 36 62 64
Pennetta def. Peng 06 75 30 ret.
Santangelo def. Sun 64 62
Santangelo/Vinci def. Sun/Sun 62 64

Garbin, Vinci, and Santangelo have all had good years. Pennetta's done well on clay, which I think is what this surface was. Schiavone's had an awful year, so I can see why they'd not pick her. Italian tennis is much more than Schiavone.

Mauresmo, Golovin, Dechy, Razzano, Bremond, they're all good players, and they probably will defeat Italy in the SF, but that doesn't mean Italy didn't deserve to get here.
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Italy just finished thanking their lucky stars that Juju got injured last September and handed the Fed Cup title to them

now luck bails them out again ...
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Re: Italy Should Thank Its Lucky Stars They Beat China, Will Be Crushed By Momo,Tati &Co

c'mon pierce, just get over it
I like Na Li as well but u should just face this result

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pennetta in 2006 destroyed peng at wimbledon, while the chinese player was faking an injury...anyways, italy also beated france in 2006 while amelie mauresmo was playing! so just stop saying dumb things, get over it, and think about next match.
italy won cause is a great team, and i can tell u that all the italian players didn't play at all their best tennis.
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fed cup is always imbalanced. i mean.... 4 blowouts in the main group. odd.

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Italy and China were just playing for the right to get destroyed by France...

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sun and shuai got injured

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Re: Italy Should Thank Its Lucky Stars They Beat China, Will Be Crushed By Momo,Tati &Co

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Italy just finished thanking their lucky stars that Juju got injured last September and handed the Fed Cup title to them

now luck bails them out again ... lets look at the facts:

first, a huge misunderstanding on the part of the Chinese Tennis Association results in China leaving Na Li (WTA #17), Jie Zheng (WTA #33, #5 Dubs) and Yan Zi (WTA #4 Dubs) at home and sending a 2nd tier team to Italy ... Italy is missing Schiavone (their 2nd best singles player @ WTA #26)

Italy puts the tie on red clay, their best surface and the worst for the Chinese

Rubber #1: Garbin (WTA # 23) d. Sun (WTA #90) in a 3 setter

Rubber #2: Pennetta (WTA #46) d. Peng (WTA #32) saving 3 MP, when Peng is forced to retire due to serious injury ... coincidentally, last time these 2 met in the Wimbledon 2006 3R, Peng had to retire to injury

Rubber #3: Garbin (WTA #23) barely squeaks by Zhang (WTA #212) in a tight 3 setter ... Garbin was down a break in the 3rd set

so Italy wins ... but that is not very impressive for a defending champion against an under-strength team on their worst surface

here is what the result would have been if the CTA had a good translator working for them (so there would have been no understanding)

Rubber #1: Peng d. Garbin 63 63
Rubber #2: Li d. Pennetta 62 64
Rubber #3: Li d. Garbin 60 61
Rubber #4: Zheng d. Santangelo 57 76 63
Rubber #5: Zheng/Yan d. Santangelo/Vinci 62 60

but it is OK, Momo, Tati and France will embarass Italy in front of their home crowd in July ... counting down the days now
they didnt get lucky they deserved to win.
ok so garbin wasnt that impressive-no news there, she is overranked and IMO wont be playing singles in the semis if schiavone and pennetta are fit.
they aint gonna get whupped by france if they can stay healthy. flavia should be back up to decent form by then as will schiavone.
there's one thing the italians have more than any other nation IMO and thats heart-it shows itself in nerves a lot of the time but they never give up.
the tie is in italy so i imagine they will play on clay, golovin isnt great on clay so they will fancy their chances with her and look at what happened to mauresmo last time they played plus they have the doubles in the bag whoever they choose to put in
i reckon this semi will be quality assuming everyone is fit
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Re: Italy Should Thank Its Lucky Stars They Beat China, Will Be Crushed By Momo,Tati &Co

i smell a sore loser..
then maybe china should thank its lucky stars that italy was playing like crap

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pennetta in 2006 destroyed peng at wimbledon, while the chinese player was faking an injury.


BTW, did u watch that match

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