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post #1 of 58 (permalink) Old Apr 9th, 2007, 06:19 PM Thread Starter
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What's wrong with Venus?

I just what to see what your opinion is on Venus Williams at the moment. I saw her play the memphis final and I was convinced that she was going to do some damage this year but then came her abysmal loss against Maria [there were too many double faults from Venus], and then she lost in horrific style against T.Golovin. I never saw the two latter matches but what do you guys think is going on? Could it be the wrist? Are we in for another abysmal year or will she do something unexpected and win Charleston and thus live up to her name of Ms inconsistentcy?

I do remember someone saying that Venus had blisters on her hand against Tathiana which could explain why her forehands kept sailing wide?

But what are we expecting from Venus?

Sometimes I don't know if Venus is being deluded when shes all calm about her losses and brushes it off so easily, not acknowledging that her game needs some help.
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

she lost a whole match on clay.

shame on her.
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

I don't know, but one thing's for sure, she's sucking right now. I doubt it will last, though. I'm assuming the crappy performance at AI is due to them begging her at the last minute to play there to save the tournament, so she might not have been totally into it. Too bad her draw is bad in Charleston. If Serena pulls out or Venus beats her, then Venus could win, no one decent besides Serena is playing there, though Venus doesn't meet my standard for "decent" right now. Thank GOD I didn't go this year, what a total waste. I still got stuck with the tickets, though. Anyone who wants second tier 8th row seats, pm me and let's make a deal.

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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

well you can look at her two ways:
1. This is now just her game. She's been erratic since 2004 and has had only brief moments of her old slam winning form showing.

2. She has been injured a lot since 2004 and has been playing off and on and has yet to find her rythm.

I like to believe in the second choice. The only confusing thing is how well she played in the memphis final. That result and her subsequent resutls afterwards seem to support choice no. 1.
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

I'm not going this year either.. not because of the field but because I'm saving to go to Wimbledon. It's weird though not to be in Charleston right now as I have been the previous five years.

However, if Venus makes it to the later rounds I might want to go.
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

Venus had indeed her right hand heavily tapped...and the Portuguese commentators did say something about blisters.

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It could have been a bad day. Do remember that Tatiana was very good, consistent this week...
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

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well you can look at her two ways:
1. This is now just her game. She's been erratic since 2004 and has had only brief moments of her old slam winning form showing.

2. She has been injured a lot since 2004 and has been playing off and on and has yet to find her rythm.

I like to believe in the second choice. The only confusing thing is how well she played in the memphis final. That result and her subsequent resutls afterwards seem to support choice no. 1.
Well maybe option one is a result of option 2?
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

She lost to the Number 2 player in the world and a red-hot Golovin.

(Yes, I know her sister has knocked the snot out of TOB twice now but I happen to think that SW has "solved" TOB and matches up with her very well physically and psychologically--most other players don't).

It's not like she's getting bounced out in the 1st round by qualifiers.

She's not on any kind of slam form right now, but she'll pick up some more good wins.

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She lost to the Number 2 player in the world and a red-hot Golovin.

(Yes, I know her sister has knocked the snot out of TOB twice now but I happen to think that SW has "solved" TOB and matches up with her very well physically and psychologically--most other players don't).

It's not like she's getting bounced out in the 1st round by qualifiers.

She's not on any kind of slam form right now, but she'll pick up some more good wins.
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I'm not going this year either.. not because of the field but because I'm saving to go to Wimbledon. It's weird though not to be in Charleston right now as I have been the previous five years.

However, if Venus makes it to the later rounds I might want to go.
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

1) Lack of match play

2) She's hitting her second serve harder, which means she's gonna miss more.

3) Lack of match play

4) There are a lot more big time hitters on tour now, so all the other players have a better idea how to play them.

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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

yea it frustrates me to see her so calm after a loss and its like that every time...i dont want her to be all pissed and self destructive....but i hope she realizes that she needs to work on some things......she already should have done that by now

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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

Lack of match play.
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Well maybe option one is a result of option 2?
most likely...but I like to believe that the way her being very erratic is a temporary thing.
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Re: What's wrong with Venus?

This is the way Venus has been playing for most of the time since returning from injury in 2004, except Wimbledon 2005. Just very disinterested, no fight, losing to the first player with a consistent weapon. I dont think lack of match play had anything to do with that loss to Golovin, or even Sharapova, and she could have done much better in both matches.


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