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View Poll Results: Are Venus and Hingis done as slam contenders?(can u see either one winning a slam?)
They both will do major damage at slams again. They are too talented not to. 49 20.94%
Venus is finished, but Hingis will start contending for slams again. 15 6.41%
The times have passed Hingis by, but Venus can still win slams once she recovers. 115 49.15%
Neither one will ever win a slam again. They're finished 26 11.11%
It's too hard to tell right now 29 12.39%
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post #1 of 65 (permalink) Old Apr 9th, 2007, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
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Question Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Ok ok.. I know many will go , some Vee fans will say she's just coming back, and some Martina fans will say "How can you group them together? Hingis has been winning Tier 1s and making slam QF's"

BUT....this is a question worth considering. When we mention slam contenders, a lot of people are quick to say "Martina Hingis" or "Venus Williams" Why? Hingis hasn't won a slam in how many years? It's been 8 years!!! She hasn't been to a slam final in 5 years and hasn't been to a semi since that last final appearance.

For Venus, outside of her win in 2005, her performance has been dismal to say the least. 0 slam semi's appearances since her injury in '03. Her last Tier 1 win was in 2004.

It is really hard to say that neither will ever win a slam again. But, in an attempt to be objective, can anyone say they are real slam contenders like Henin, Serena, Mauresmo, Sharapova and others? Even Vaidisova has made 2 slam semi's...while these two vets are struggling in early rounds.

If you think they are real contenders.. why?? Hingis has the consistency but not the game, IMO, to beat top players back-to-back or even players ranked 10-20. Venus has the talent to beat anyone, but her consistency is so terrible that she could beat a top 10 player one day and lose to someone outside the top 100 the next. I just can't see Hingis or Venus realistically winning a slam anytime soon and they're getting old in tennis years, so time is running out.

(btw, i am a huge fan of both and nothing would please me more than to see HIngis and Vee add to their slam count. It just pains me as a fan to expect so much, and then get disappointed. I think it's just time to readjust the standards for these two.)

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

I respect Venus a lot and I know she does so well at Wimbledon. Martina is my no.1 forever favourite.

"They both will do major damage at slams again. They are too talented not to " is what i chose.

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Its too hard to tell right now, i mean anything can happen. Think about monica seles' stabbing, alicia molik was on such an upward rise and then she just got struck with vestibular neuronitis. Can't say

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Martina Hingis lacks power and she has a lot problems with 'young guns' and other players who have powerful strokes She simply doesn't have any weapon to win a Slam

Vee is different story, I think we all remember Wimbledon, if she finds her consistency and I think that sooner or later she will then she will have a great shot on winning another Slam.

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Hingis has got her share of slam glory....Venus on the other hand is always a threat in Wimbledon....but I don't see her winning any other slams besides that one...
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Venus never can't be write of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Hmmm, I voted the third option. As much as I dislike them, a Williams sister never can be written off for any Slam.

As for Hingis, I just don't see her winning another.
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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Venus can still win slams Im not so sure about Martina
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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

Never write off a Williams sister, simply. Just look what Serena did at the Australian Open. If Venus gets inspired and more fit, she will always be a contender at a slam. Can't wait to see her at Wimbledon!

Martina though lacks so much power. The bigger, stronger players are starting to jump all over She started the year well but since winning Tokyo hasn't been at her best. I think that's it'll be a longshot if Martina wins a GS

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

In MElb this year everyone was saying Martina was big threat for title.. she lost QF pretty good really.. She has also finished runner up in Gold Coast and she was champion in Tokyo tier 1 where she Dementieva & Ivanovic who both played very good there..
Venus pushed world number 2 to 3 sets, and has a win loss record of something like 14-3 (??) some1 please correct that if wrong .. which isnt bad for a player recently returned from injury and she thrased 1 of the most promising players Peer 6-1,6-1 only a few weeks ago

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

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In MElb this year everyone was saying Martina was big threat for title.. she lost QF pretty good really.. She has also finished runner up in Gold Coast and she was champion in Tokyo tier 1 where she Dementieva & Ivanovic who both played very good there..
It's an excellent resume by normal standards, but the worrying thing is that after 2006, which was an outstanding first year back on the tour, she hasn't been able to build on that to improve even further. If anything, she was better twelve months ago than she is now. It's not a hopeless situation, but she has to get to winning ways again soon to get her confidence back. She can possibly still do it if the draw opens up for her and if she can play her best tennis if and when the opportunity arises. In the somewhat unlikely event that she would win one soon she will be a bigger threat in the slams that follow it also, because one of her biggest problems now is self-doubt IMO.

Venus is impossible to predict. She might go out in the first round, but if she gets in a groove she may just as easily win all seven matches without losing a set.

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It's an excellent resume by normal standards, but the worrying thing is that after 2006, which was an outstanding first year back on the tour, she hasn't been able to build on that to improve even further. If anything, she was better twelve months ago than she is now. It's not a hopeless situation, but she has to get to winning ways again soon to get her confidence back. She can possibly still do it if the draw opens up for her and if she can play her best tennis if and when the opportunity arises. In the somewhat unlikely event that she would win one soon she will be a bigger threat in the slams that follow it also, because one of her biggest problems now is self-doubt IMO.

Venus is impossible to predict. She might go out in the first round, but if she gets in a groove she may just as easily win all seven matches without losing a set.
The last couple of years I would have totally agreed, but now she's got her little sis to contend with.
IMO it's going to be very hard (except for Justine at the French) for anyone to win a major as long as Serena keeps playing well.

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

I haven't voted. I'd go for option 4, but that doesn't mean they're finished.
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they are contenders for most overrated player and that is all

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Re: Are Venus and Hingis done as real slam contenders?

hingis yes!! venus no.... how can you cant her out of anything now and days becuase you never know what youre going to get when venus comes on court. you can get the consistent venus, or the other venus wacking errors all over the place but still fighting herself and her opponents. as for martina she comes out playing the same game match after match players know what to expect of her they know the serve is weak and has no power.
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