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To which player would we accept a Venus loss?

It amazes me that everyone has been quick to dismiss Venus after her last two losses, one to maria the other to Tatiana. these players aren't chopped liver. I haven't seen the matches but I am not ready to dismiss Venus yet. Coz of her ranking she is drawing good players very early, that doesn't mean she is playing badly coz she lost in the third or the quarters.
If she drew Justine on clay in rd 2 and lost , would that still be considered a terrible loss?
As a fan, i don't like to see her lose at all. I would be alot more concerned if she were losing to the likes of players like serena did, craybas, etc.

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Re: To which player would we accept a Venus loss?

i agree with you.

just because serena came back after few months, and won a GS, everybody is expecting venus to do that.

one must understand, venus was injured much longer. serena recovered after wimbledon and was practising hard 2nd half of last year. whereas venus was injured for a longer period.

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Venus will find her way, she always does
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losing to sharapova is a bad loss seeing as Sharapova was subsequently crushed by Serena 6-1 6-1
Losing to Golovin is a bad loss cuz Venus is >>>>Golovin. And now she falls 0-2 to Golovin. A player she should not have a losing H2H with. I don't really care if she loses its just the way she loses. Her game is sooo erratic and she really just puts herself in a hole in every match. And she has no fight left. She breaks back twice in the second set against Golovin and plays a horrible game to get broken. And on match point she gets golovin on the run, running from side to side and gets a floater reply and hits the ball in to the net. I just want her to keep the freakin' ball in the court.
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Re: To which player would we accept a Venus loss?

I will never dismiss Venus. I believe in her potential and I love seeing her play no matter what.

I also believe she had two terrible losses in Miami and AI. And I hope she can play more consistent tennis with less DF's and errors.

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it'll take a while.. but she'll be back for sure.

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Venus will be back I'll accept a lost to anyone in the top 20 right now. When she gets stronger only top 10 losses.

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Re: To which player would we accept a Venus loss?

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It amazes me that everyone has been quick to dismiss Venus after her last two losses, one to maria the other to Tatiana. these players aren't chopped liver. I haven't seen the matches but I am not ready to dismiss Venus yet. Coz of her ranking she is drawing good players very early, that doesn't mean she is playing badly coz she lost in the third or the quarters.
If she drew Justine on clay in rd 2 and lost , would that still be considered a terrible loss?
As a fan, i don't like to see her lose at all. I would be alot more concerned if she were losing to the likes of players like serena did, craybas, etc.
Finally, a sensible post on Venus. I actually think the loss to Maria was disappointing considering Maria's lack of form and fitness at the time but so what? And she could have played better against Tati yes, but Tati WAS brilliant and is deservedly in the final with a good chance of winning her 1st title.

During the match with Tati, Venus did show flashes of brilliance. Venus is still a very strong player in my book. Threads by fans castigating their favorite players after one or two upsets grow really tired. Hey, upsets are part of the game. All the best players have, from time to time, had disappointing results. It doesn't mean they are finished.

This won't be Venus's last disappointing loss. Infact I fully expect to see Serena, Martina, Justine, Maria and Amelie etc, all suffer unexpected loses in the next year. And each one will produce threads saying these players are finished, pathetic, should retire and so on.

But all these players will inevitably also have their great moments too and all will also undoubtably add to their already big trophy cabinets. Nothing stays the same for long in tennis. The players who are hot now won't stay hot permenently and most of those who have suffered disappointing losses will bounce back.


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It amazes me that everyone has been quick to dismiss Venus after her last two losses, one to maria the other to Tatiana. these players aren't chopped liver. I haven't seen the matches but I am not ready to dismiss Venus yet. Coz of her ranking she is drawing good players very early, that doesn't mean she is playing badly coz she lost in the third or the quarters.
If she drew Justine on clay in rd 2 and lost , would that still be considered a terrible loss?
As a fan, i don't like to see her lose at all. I would be alot more concerned if she were losing to the likes of players like serena did, craybas, etc.
Good point...................Give Venus some time...I hope Serena is supporting and motivating her to get better...........
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are you kidding?!

of couse she is, she's her sister

It's the weirdos here that are turing their backs on Vee

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It amazes me that everyone has been quick to dismiss Venus after her last two losses, one to maria the other to Tatiana. these players aren't chopped liver. I haven't seen the matches but I am not ready to dismiss Venus yet. Coz of her ranking she is drawing good players very early, that doesn't mean she is playing badly coz she lost in the third or the quarters.
If she drew Justine on clay in rd 2 and lost , would that still be considered a terrible loss?
As a fan, i don't like to see her lose at all. I would be alot more concerned if she were losing to the likes of players like serena did, craybas, etc.
couldn't agree with you more venus can only get better & better.
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Re: To which player would we accept a Venus loss?

I don't really accept any of Venus's losses because I simply know she's good enough to beat anybody on any surface.

However, I would never dump her and I don't ever get too angry at her when she loses because after all she's the one who's out there playing and fighting and therefore I don't feel entitled to judge her.

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Finally, a sensible post on Venus. I actually think the loss to Maria was disappointing considering Maria's lack of form and fitness at the time but so what? And she could have played better against Tati yes, but Tati WAS brilliant and is deservedly in the final with a good chance of winning her 1st title.

During the match with Tati, Venus did show flashes of brilliance. Venus is still a very strong player in my book. Threads by fans castigating their favorite players after one or two upsets grow really tired. Hey, upsets are part of the game. All the best players have, from time to time, had disappointing results. It doesn't mean they are finished.

This won't be Venus's last disappointing loss. Infact I fully expect to see Serena, Martina, Justine, Maria and Amelie etc, all suffer unexpected loses in the next year. And each one will produce threads saying these players are finished, pathetic, should retire and so on.

But all these players will inevitably also have their great moments too and all will also undoubtably add to their already big trophy cabinets. Nothing stays the same for long in tennis. The players who are hot now won't stay hot permenently and most of those who have suffered disappointing losses will bounce back.
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Re: To which player would we accept a Venus loss?

practiclally, i expect Venus a good chance to lose against consistant players that can generate good power themselves, on any relativly slow surface to midium hard.
I still think she's going to go very deep in Wimbeldon, only to start here a million "now she's REALLY back!!!11!!" threads of the phony-fans that are bashing her at the moment.
if she'll still be fit in the indoor season, she should rack up titles there as well.
eventually, that was always her niche over serena, and it's easy to claim that she has lesser than her younger sibling, but it's still enough to be one of, if not the most, dominant forces on fast courts.

but honestly, i'd love her to lose, and lose badly anywhere she enters with too much self-belief.
I'm not a fan, what can I do, but at least I hope she regains her top form. i dislike the WS losing when out of game.

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