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Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

Tracy Austin got one thing right do not expect Venus to have the type of comeback Serena has had. This year will be all about Serena and Venus as usual will be the losing sister in the shadows watching on clapping as Serena wins big titles. I wonder how Venus feels being the loser sister? I mean, I can't help that she must be a bit envious that Serena is winning everything while she loses to people like Golivin.

Where is Venus's pride? Eventually you would think a fire would light within her?
Today's result proves that Venus will not be on top anytime soon if ever. I am sure Serena would NEVER lose to Golivin. As I predicted Venus lost to Golivin again. The loss underscores the big difference between Venus and Serena's games. Venus game is just too erratic and not smooth like Serena's.
Serena's game is flawless when its on and even when its not on. Serena is smart enough to pull back and be patient. Venus is too impatient on clay. Don't expect Venus to do well at the French Open this year expect the same result as she usually has.

Serena went to Nick's academy to work on her game during her comeback. I think Venus depends on Richard too much. Serena seems to be more independent.Nick helped Serena out. So why doesn't Venus find an additional support someone from the outside that can help her? Steffi Graf hired a swiss coach many years back because she realized her father Peter could only take her so far. I don't see why Venus cannot consult with someone else? Why not ask Billie Jean King to be a part time coach? Martina Navratilova went to Billie Jean for assistance and she won Wimbledon in 1990. Venus serve is her weakness and she needs to tighten up her strokes. I just don't see Venus coming back until she grows up, admits her weaknesses and corrects them.
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Tracy Austin got one thing right do not expect Venus to have the type of comeback Serena has had. This year will be all about Serena and Venus as usual will be the losing sister in the shadows watching on clapping as Serena wins big titles. I wonder how Venus feels being the loser sister? I mean, I can't help that she must be a bit envious that Serena is winning everything while she loses to people like Golivin.

Where is Venus's pride? Eventually you would think a fire would light within her?
Today's result proves that Venus will not be on top anytime soon if ever. I am sure Serena would NEVER lose to Golivin. As I predicted Venus lost to Golivin again. The loss underscores the big difference between Venus and Serena's games. Venus game is just too erratic and not smooth like Serena's.
Serena's game is flawless when its on and even when its not on. Serena is smart enough to pull back and be patient. Venus is too impatient on clay. Don't expect Venus to do well at the French Open this year expect the same result as she usually has.

Serena went to Nick's academy to work on her game during her comeback. I think Venus depends on Richard too much. Serena seems to be more independent.Nick helped Serena out. So why doesn't Venus find an additional support someone from the outside that can help her? Steffi Graf hired a swiss coach many years back because she realized her father Peter could only take her so far. I don't see why Venus cannot consult with someone else? Why not ask Billie Jean King to be a part time coach? Martina Navratilova went to Billie Jean for assistance and she won Wimbledon in 1990. Venus serve is her weakness and she needs to tighten up her strokes. I just don't see Venus coming back until she grows up, admits her weaknesses and corrects them.
You know I've said and thought the same thing. The real question what is wrong with Venus? I don't think she has any control anymore over how well she plays. Sometimes she can come out and her serve is clicking and her forehand is on fire and she is like a monster out there. She seeems untouchable. But the majority of times she's erratic and lost on court. I think she tries to add more spin and tries to play more carefully but still ends up missing a lot. I don't know what it is. She seems doomed to fall to the wayside while Serena storms the tour. However, I will say this, any opponent playing Venus better be careful cuz no matter how high they are ranked or how well they are playing if Venus' game suddenly falls into place they are toast.
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Re: Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

I really don't think it has anything to do with that.
Venus has to admit to herself that she isn't the same player in the earlier rounds of a tournament than she is in a later round and then do something about it.
Everyone on tour knows by now if you're going to get a Williams sister in a draw, hopefully it's Venus and hopefully it's in an earlier round where she's not focused.

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What???? The sea hag got something right?




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can't wait to see Venus win big again! And I can't wait to see your faces. You can still see glimpses of the old VEE in her match today...but she is having problems with her unforced errors and her rushing points. She will be just fine...don't you guys worry! She's healty and if she stay that way...she will WIN! Just mark my words.
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Re: Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

Venus has never and will never be talented enough to string together good wins on slow surfaces.

Her only hope is on grass. She's made her entire career around winning Wimbledon and a few fast hard court American tournaments (USO, Miami). Outside of that she has never done anything great, even in her prime.

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venus took a longtime to come from injury,this is how lindsay played when she came back from injury.she kept on playing and her game finally clicked she went through coaches every three months.venus should keep on playing it will come together sometime in the beginning of summer.
i am not going to bash venus because i am her biggest fan but i know its going to come together in the summer.venus is going to struggle for sure but something is going to click during the summer.serena is going to sail throughout but venus is going to rise during the summer.her problems are not physical they are mental.
she should be patient not try to compete with serena and she will be okay.
i have a strong feeling venus is going to shine in the summer and win usa open.
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Venus has never and will never be talented enough to string together good wins on slow surfaces.

Her only hope is on grass. She's made her entire career around winning Wimbledon and a few fast hard court American tournaments (USO, Miami). Outside of that she has never done anything great, even in her prime.
Yeah that's why she has 7 Clay titles and make the RG Finals
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Re: Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

Stop comparing Venus to Serena. Venus needs more time to find her game.
Her loss today was a bad one in the way she lost but this is her third tournament back from injury and the first on green clay.

I still think she can have a good season but she has to find the consistency back in her game and match toughness. She will be fine when she does that.
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Yeah that's why she has 7 Clay titles and make the RG Finals
Yeah she made the RG finals beating Clarissa Fernandez in the semifnals And most of those clay titles were very, very weak... such as in 2004 or that Tier III title she won.

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Venus has never and will never be talented enough to string together good wins on slow surfaces.

Her only hope is on grass. She's made her entire career around winning Wimbledon and a few fast hard court American tournaments (USO, Miami). Outside of that she has never done anything great, even in her prime.
WOW, what an idiot!
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Re: Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

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Venus has never and will never be talented enough to string together good wins on slow surfaces.

Her only hope is on grass. She's made her entire career around winning Wimbledon and a few fast hard court American tournaments (USO, Miami). Outside of that she has never done anything great, even in her prime.
lol yes because in 2004 she lost all her clay matches right you are just retarded

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Re: Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

This is only her 3rd tournament, and first on this surface...Venus is the kind of player (barring grass) who needs to play herself in form/shape.

I know that this loss will help her for Charleston, because she'll be looking to avoid the things she did wrong here.

On the positive note, she didn't hit 6+ doubles today

So, I'm sure that by the time that RG rolls around, if she plays all of the tournies that she signed up for (Charleston, Warsaw, Istanbul) she should be fine

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Re: Where is Venus's pride? She needs to admit she needs help

she was with the same coach when she beat Peer in Memphis
playing FLAWLESS tennis...
she was perfect back then...
what confused is that, suddenly its all gone...
that Memphis player in Venus has gone once again...

one good thing is that she is getting more match experience...
but by this age, she is already experience..
she's schedule to play
3 more tournies before the FO...
and even though she gets to the QFs SFs or even the 4R...
it wont be that bad...

its the Wimbledon that matters to her most anyway...
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Yeah she made the RG finals beating Clarissa Fernandez in the semifnals And most of those clay titles were very, very weak... such as in 2004 or that Tier III title she won.
What about the Charleston 2002 title where she beat Justine in the final, and she won their again in 04.
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