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Serena, on her terms. Will not conform.

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Serena does things on her terms...even if it costs her a place amongst the all time greats.

When I see Serena Williams play as dominating a match as she did against Maria Sharapova [in Key Biscayne], I'm almost more frustrated with Williams. Not with how she's playing now (stellar) but at the years she wasted in Hollywood. She could have gone down as the best ever, don't you think?
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I see your point, though you leave yourself open to the inevitable rebuttal of, "She had a death in the family. This swoon was not all about velvet ropes and eating coconut shrimp at premieres." Personally, I've reached a point with Serena in particular where I accept the contradictions and the wavering commitment as part of the gestalt and move on. A prominent male player recently dismissed Serena to me as "a talent abuser." This echoes Chris Evert's sentiments from last year, too.

I think this misses the point at some level. From day one, Serena approached the sport differently from other players. To both her credit and detriment, she never conformed. And she never will.

If you're looking her to play 18 events or train consistently or hire a coach with technical know-how or stress out about the WTA commitment rules, you'll be disappointed. Never going to happen. And if she costs herself a seat in the Graf-Evert-Navratilova table in the process, so be it. She is who she is, an exceptional player, happy to play on her terms but unwilling to conform to the usual rules and rhythms.

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I think we all have to get over Serena's depressing March 2005-Dec 2006 period. She has done so, and that abiltity to move on is what makes her the player she is today.

So then what word suffices for Graf, who through 1987 to 1993, played 26 slams and reached 21 finals (won 14), the semi-finals three times, the quarters twice. Not once in that period did she lose earlier.

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Why must they still bring up all that Hollywood shit. This is 2007, move on!
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It better not be Roger who called her a tennis abuser, because my love for Serena runs deeper than my love for him.

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Looks like they still can´t get over the fact that Serena has been raised and coached to be the best player of her generation on her parents and her own terms
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For me she already sit there with the all time best players louge!! Daahhhh

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Didn't Serena just participate in another reality show and still won in Miami? What these people fail to realize is that Serena came back when she was ready to come back. Why does the public assume that Serena wants to win 15 grandslams? Maybe she a number that she feels is enough for her and see a balance in doing other things that makes her happy.
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that's very true!!!!I hope it's not him cause I have loved Serena since 99....but you can't be a Serena fan without accepting what she does....she's always had her outside interests even when she was winning so it doesn't bother me...people need to get over it

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why should serena conform,to please who?she can only please herself first,family second and probably her fans third.these so called experts think we dont know about their subtle insults towards serena and her coaches.this letter is insinuating that oracene and richard are not capable.who cares whether she joins the graff,nav and evert legacy,she has made her own legacy and her fans will remember her as the most fascinating talented player of her generation.
what has male players got to do with women players,they should bother with how to beat roger.
these so called experts should be worried about their pet pova and leave serena the hell alone.they think serena listens to evert or pay attention to the navratilova statistics.
serena is going to make history this year she will play tournaments and win all the time.pova is going to be shut out completely,serena's competetion is going to be justine not momo,the russians or any other wannabe.
2007 is going to showcase serena as a legend in her time and beyond.she is a player who epitomes the catch phrase "it is what it is".

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Aren't these the same guys who were having a go at serena when she was struggling? Quite frankly I don't believe they really want to see serena as the greatest ever, this is let's criticise serena regardless of what she has accomplished.
If serena dominates again, look to see the 'death to power tennis' flags waved again. Why didn't they acknowledge this talent in 02/03. Weren't they all saying how unfair it was that they i.e both sisters were so much bigger than the others. it didn't even matter that justine was beating the sugar out of Lindsay then.

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seriously....?? people were saying that shit??

i wasnt reading up so much about the tennis back then. but if there is no consistency in sports columnists words and thoughts then i think that is showing double standards

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Stupid post from Ken or whatever his name was. He seems to have just caught the train of two years ago...moose.

Anyway, I like Wertheim's reply though...everyone should accept Serena for who she is. If she wanted to be on the table of Graf and co (so badly, like say Federer wants to surpass Sampras so badly in the men's game) then she would be; end of, she is getting what she wants out of tennis and life. 'Grats to her.

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Makes Serena even greater..all on her own terms. No junior playing, no playing yourself to death..allows herself to drop out of top 100 and then comes back to win Oz open ( destroying the no.1 to be, who hasn't been the same since) and Miami (destroying no.2 again and rallying from set and 4-5 15-40 down!) . That's why she'll go down as a legend.

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I would like to add that tenis is not a science. No one will ever know what would hvae happened to serena under different circumstances. Who would have bet that in the constant absence of both williams and belgians in the 03/05 Lindsay who was next in line to win a major would not when the likes of myskina a non clay courter, kuzy, amelie, etc players lindsay was arguably so much better would win majors instead. Even Pierce came back to the finals the same no of times as lIndsay.
perhaps even if all had gone well, serena may not have even won slams.
When Venus won USO 2001, who would have thought it would a solid 4 years before she won another slame. bear in mind she was at the top of her game too till that damned injury in 03.
kim finally wins a major, still at the top of women's tennis and never wins another.
We really cannot lament wasted talent, unless of course a player just quits with no injury insight.

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