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Justine 197 41.47%
Venus 189 39.79%
Both equally great 39 8.21%
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Venus vs Justine

Everyone is comparing Serena and Justine and trying to decide who is greater but I wanted to know who people thought was greater between Venus and Justine because they both have really achieved alot of the same things. Justine has won 3 of the slams and Venus only two but Venus has been in the finals of all 4 just like Justine and Venus has a lot more doubles titles then Henin so I'm just curious............

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Winner: (44): 2012- Luxembourg 2010 - Dubai, Acapulco; 2009 - Dubai, Acapulco; 2008 - Wimbledon, Zürich, WTA Championships; 2007 - Memphis, Wimbledon, Seoul; 2005 - Istanbul, Wimbledon; 2004 - Charleston, Warsaw; 2003 - Antwerp; 2002 - Gold Coast, Paris [Indoors], Antwerp, Amelia Island, Stanford, San Diego, New Haven; 2001 - Miami, Hamburg, Wimbledon, San Diego, New Haven, US Open; 2000 - Wimbledon, Stanford, San Diego, New Haven, US Open, Olympics; 1999 - Oklahoma City, Miami, Hamburg, Rome, New Haven, Zürich; 1998 - Oklahoma City, Miami, Grand Slam Cup.
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Winner (43): 2010 - Stuttgart, 's-Hertogenbosch; 2008 - Sydney, Antwerp; 2007 - Dubai, Doha, Warsaw, Roland Garros, Eastbourne, Toronto, US Open, Stuttgart, Zürich, WTA Championships; 2006 - Sydney, Dubai, Roland Garros, Eastbourne, New Haven, WTA Championships; 2005 - Charleston, Warsaw, Berlin, Roland Garros; 2004 - Australian Open, Sydney, Dubai, Indian Wells, Olympics; 2003 - Roland Garros, Dubai, Charleston, Berlin, San Diego, Toronto, US Open, Zürich; 2002 - Berlin, Linz; 2001 - Gold Coast, Canberra, 's-Hertogenbosch; 2000 - ITF/Liège-BEL; 1999 - Antwerp, ITF/Reims-FRA; 1998 - ITF/Gelos-FRA, ITF/Grenelefe-USA, ITF/Ramat Hasharon-ISR; 1997 - ITF/Le Touquet-FRA, ITF/Koksijde-BEL.
Finalist (18): 2010 - Brisbane, Australian Open; 2007 - Miami; 2006 - Australian Open, Berlin, Wimbledon, US Open; 2005 - Toronto; 2003 - 's-Hertogenbosch, Leipzig, Filderstadt; 2002 - Gold Coast, Antwerp, Amelia Island, Rome; 2001 - Wimbledon, Hawaii, Filderstadt.

*117 weeks at #1 Plus 2 WTA Tour doubles titles

H2H Venus leads 7-2

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Re: Venus vs Justine

We'll wait and see in around 5 years time.

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Re: Venus vs Justine

Pretty even.

Right now, slight edge to Venus just because she has the doubles. All the Slams at least once, and Olympic gold.
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Re: Venus vs Justine

Close, but a slight edge to Venus. Justine is younger though and has a chance to surpass Venus in GS and other victories. Venus has a 7-1 H-H over Justine but Justine,being more than 2 years younger, had not reached her peak for most of those encounters.
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Re: Venus vs Justine

Venus all the way, she had such periods of domiation in 2000 and 2001 that Justine has never experienced
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Re: Venus vs Justine

Pros for venus:
3 wimbledons
good h2h record against top players including justine
olmpic gold medal
5 slams and more slams in doubles and mixed
more career titles


Pros for Justine:
3 french’s
longer stay at number one
slams wins on 3 surfaces, venus only has two surfaces
ended her year at number one twice, venus never has
she’s one the year-end championships, venus hasn’t


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who’s been a part of the top ten for the most years, how about top 5?
who has the better career win loss record?
who has the better grand slam record?

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Re: Venus vs Justine

I can't wait till their next meeting
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Tennisjunky and TennisIlove09, Justine also have Olympic Gold..


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Justine actually has more Tier Is than Venus though. 8 to 6. But, yeah, this discussion is old.




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Re: Venus vs Justine

Both equally great. They are pretty even in almost all categories.

Titles
Venus- 34
Justine 31

Grand Slams
Venus- 5
Justine 5
Difference is that Justine won 3 of the 4 possible GS and Venus winning only Wimbledon and US Open.

Olympic Medals
Venus- 2000 Singles & Doubles (Sydney)
Justine- 2004 Singles (Athens)

Year-End #1
Venus- 0
Justine- 2

It is definitely scary on how similar their careers are Definitely equal right now and maybe in a couple of years time we can base who is better.

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Re: Venus vs Justine

Karat, Justine have 5 slams, like Venus..


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Karat, Justine have 5 slams, like Venus..
Yeah, sorry. I forgot to include RG 2006

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Re: Venus vs Justine

Well if you only compare singles, both careers are quite similar with the slight edge to Justine for sure..I mean come on..She has a YEC and 2 year end #1 rankings more than Vee

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Re: Venus vs Justine

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Well if you only compare singles, both careers are quite similar with the slight edge to Justine for sure..I mean come on..She has a YEC and 2 year end #1 rankings more than Vee
But Venus has more career titles; and she leads H2H ... so singles wise, it's even.
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Re: Venus vs Justine

If Justine can win Wimbledon then things will swing in her favour I think....

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