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Serena Not At Her Best and Still Beating #1 - What Does It Mean ...

.. to the rest of the other WTA Players.

Does this mean if Serena is on, the scoreline against Maria, instead of being a rarity, might become common occurence against other players?

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The fast players are going to look at the Peer and Henin matches, and see hope. The slower power baseliners are going to look at the Sharapova match, and find little encouragement.

And I'm sure everybody noted that in some matches, Serena starts slow, and can be taken advantage of.

I doubt they're losing sleep. They are professionals.

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Mental toughness in professional sports is the key. Serena has it for now. Justine broke down at the end, whether it was because of Serena raising her level of play, or she lowered hers. I think it was a combination of both, nowever, Justine falling down twice didn't help her confidence. The question is who else possess the mental toughness to win even when your serve and ground strokes are totally off. Answer: not many.
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It just means that Serena is an incredible fighter. Cause tennis-wise, she was getting beaten comprehensively. That 5-4 game turned around the whole match, and Justine fell off mentally for a few games, and that was enough to decide the match.
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Means that even if you have triple match points, or 7 match points in TB, you can never count her out.

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Mental toughness in professional sports is the key. Serena has it for now. Justine broke down at the end, whether it was because of Serena raising her level of play, or she lowered hers. I think it was a combination of both, nowever, Justine falling down twice didn't help her confidence. The question is who else possess the mental toughness to win even when your serve and ground strokes are totally off. Answer: not many.
I agree. I haven't seen many players still win when all their strokes are failing them. Something I've always admired in Serena. Doesn't matter how far from her best she is, she can still find a way to win.
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Aside from Volcana, you guys are not answering the second part of the question.
Which, was: If Serena is on her game and , like she was twice in this trournament, will the score be routinely
as lopsided as it was in the two matches .

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That She is one of the GREATS.
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I agree. I haven't seen many players still win when all their strokes are failing them. Something I've always admired in Serena. Doesn't matter how far from her best she is, she can still find a way to win.
I didn't watch the match, but it must've been her serve again that saved her neck.
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The fast players are going to look at the Peer and Henin matches, and see hope.
All they really needed to do was go back and look at J-Cap. This "vulnerability" in Serena has been pretty consistant.

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.. to the rest of the other WTA Players.

Does this mean if Serena is on, the scoreline against Maria, instead of being a rarity, might become common occurence against other players?
No. Not all players are as helpless as Maria and they do not often have 'off-days' like Pierce.
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Aside from Volcana, you guys are not answering the second part of the question.
Which, was: If Serena is on her game and , like she was twice in this trournament, will the score be routinely
as lopsided as it was in the two matches .
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I didn't watch the match, but it must've been her serve again that saved her neck.
She did not really have a rythm.
Her serve let her down many times, and it saved her at times.
But I would not say, it was factor in the outcome.
It anything, it was a liability today.
I think she won on pure guts, or should I say refusal to lose
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If Serena is on her game and , like she was twice in this trournament, will the score be routinely
as lopsided as it was in the two matches .
It would depend on who she's playing against, and how good those players are. At her best, she'll be the favorite against anyone, but I don't think that the last two matches against Maria show the real difference betwee their games. Maria is clearly having an off period now, possibly the worst since Wimb 04, and I'd think it'd be much closer if her serve got to where it was in the summer of 06. As for Justine, she showed today that she improved so much on faster courts against the big hitters. Four years ago, there's no way in hell Justine would hit so many winners with her forehand or return like she did today. She lost with an off Serena, but she was in control of the match for the large part, before falling mentally herself. So overall, I really don't think one can take anything from that match on the level of Serena's opposition, except probably that Justine is catching up on hard courts.
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