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Serena vs Shahar Peer: My take

Serena started out the match trying to hit winners past Peer they same way she did past her slow-footed opponents of the previous two rounds. But Peer's defense proved equal to the challenge. Then, around 4-4 (maybe a little earlier) Serena started looking tentative. Suddenly she was just batting some balls back, letting the rallies get longer. I started getting worried.

But then I realized something. Serena wasn't trying for nearly as many winners, but now she was starting to get them past Peer. That continued through the tie-breaker, and then I realized what i was seeing. Serena was figuring out how to play an opponent who could, effectively, run faster than Serena could hit. Serena began varying pace, hitting a lot more offspeed stuff, letting the rallies be longer.

She got better and better at getting Peer out of position. And, without a glaring change in the level of play for either player, a 7-6 set was followed by a 6-1 set.

NOTE: Serena was sluggish. I do think she may have been looking past Peer. But it certainly helped Serena to play a super-fast opponent before playing Henin.

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Re: Serena vs Shahar Peer: My take

she cannot afford a slow start against Justine
she has to start blasting right from the start...
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Sometimes Serena can be such a strange person...completely nervous tonight for no reason.

Shahar definitely has the goods, she just needs to make some minors tweak. She needs to me more aggressive and that serve needs alot of work.

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Thank you Nick
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Serena started out the match trying to hit winners past Peer they same way she did past her slow-footed opponents of the previous two rounds. But Peer's defense proved equal to the challenge. Then, around 4-4 (maybe a little earlier) Serena started looking tentative. Suddenly she was just batting some balls back, letting the rallies get longer. I started getting worried.

But then I realized something. Serena wasn't trying for nearly as many winners, but now she was starting to get them past Peer. That continued through the tie-breaker, and then I realized what i was seeing. Serena was figuring out how to play an opponent who could, effectively, run faster than Serena could hit. Serena began varying pace, hitting a lot more offspeed stuff, letting the rallies be longer.

She got better and better at getting Peer out of position. And, without a glaring change in the level of play for either player, a 7-6 set was followed by a 6-1 set.

NOTE: Serena was sluggish. I do think she may have been looking past Peer. But it certainly helped Serena to play a super-fast opponent before playing Henin.
what a pile of nonsense. Peer wa playing against a service-machine in the first set so she couldn't get a single break-point altough she won the mojority of the long rallies from the back. in the second set she went at list 2 levels downward as she realized that she couldn't do anything against this services and it broke her heart.
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what a pile of nonsense. Peer wa playing against a service-machine in the first set so she couldn't get a single break-point altough she won the mojority of the long rallies from the back. in the second set she went at list 2 levels downward as she realized that she couldn't do anything against this services and it broke her heart.
Somehow, and I've seen her a couple times, Peer doesn't strike me as the kind of player who an opponent's serve 'break her heart'. She competing to the end, but Serena played smarter tennis, if not better, qualitatively. She stopped trying to hit five, six, seven winners in a row when Peer kept tracking them down, and started looking for another way to win. And she found it.

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Peer comptes until the hands. That is the kkind of palyer she is.
I do not think Serena "broke her heart"

Vene when she lost againt Venus 6-1 6-1, she was still competing until the end.
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Somehow, and I've seen her a couple times, Peer doesn't strike me as the kind of player who an opponent's serve 'break her heart'. She competing to the end, but Serena played smarter tennis, if not better, qualitatively. She stopped trying to hit five, six, seven winners in a row when Peer kept tracking them down, and started looking for another way to win. And she found it.
If you think that Peer has kept the same level in the second set as in the first then either you and I haven't seen the same match or that your opinion is biased toward your fave. why don't you be honest and say the truth: Serena didn't have to do anything special in the second set , Peer was deomorilized and lost her confidence and thus her level has sliped.

I am asking for honesty to your self , that's all. have a nice day, I am going to bad, it's early morning in Israel and I haven't slept all night . good night.
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I am asking for honesty to your self , that's all. have a nice day, I am going to bad, it's early morning in Israel and I haven't slept all night . good night.
I think you need to go to sleep. You sound like you need it.
You're taking your lack of sleep frustration on Peer.

After a good night sleep, you'll appreciate her fighting spirits more.

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Peer obviously was down after losing the 1st set.
she didn't get broken til she lost that set. so she obviously wasn't the same. i love how commentators whine when ever Serena is in a close battle. they never give the other player credit when its a non american hanging with Serena. its becoming a very annoying pattern.
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Peer obviously was down after losing the 1st set.
she didn't get broken til she lost that set. so she obviously wasn't the same. i love how commentators whine when ever Serena is in a close battle. they never give the other player credit when its a non american hanging with Serena. its becoming a very annoying pattern.
I am sure they do this in other countries as well.
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If you think that Peer has kept the same level in the second set as in the first then either you and I haven't seen the same match or that your opinion is biased toward your fave. why don't you be honest and say the truth: Serena didn't have to do anything special in the second set , Peer was deomorilized and lost her confidence and thus her level has sliped.

I am asking for honesty to your self , that's all. have a nice day, I am going to bad, it's early morning in Israel and I haven't slept all night . good night.
You are right; Peer lost confidence. I guess the salient question is why did Peer lost confidence?

Me thinks the answer is because she found that Serena was too good and that her best will not be sufficient to give her the result she was hoping for. Or better still, something more like being demoralised after having realized that Serena is way better and superior. Peer competed well though. She just is not at Serena's level period!!
Could there be any other reason?

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Re: Serena vs Shahar Peer: My take

This was the worst mental breakdown I've ever seen Shahar have. Frankly, I was shocked. She can get a bit tight, but I've never seen her just go to pieces before. But she's smart, so she'll learn from it.

Between that and Anna's regression to her old immature self, it was a disappointing pair of matches.
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Re: Serena vs Shahar Peer: My take

Despite the close first set and Shahar's ability go bother Serena's game, I felt like she was always one or two steps behind. For every great point Shahar played, there was a forehand into the net or something similar not far afterwards. She gave Serena the chance to work around her nerves and the annoying knee problem...she didn't play the part of the aggressor well enough. I'm sure she has the potential to hone her mental skills in the years to come.
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the final that we all ave been waiting for

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