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Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

Although Hingis was names after navratilova, who would win if both were in their prime.
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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

This is the first one of these that's interesting. Navratilova made the Wimbledon final in 1994 or 1995. She was 38 I think. Hingis won it in 1997. So, arguably, Hingis at her most dominant wasn't a lot better than Navratilova at 38. Hingis won her last slam at 19 or 20. Navratilova won her first at 23.

Nav would get to net anytime she wanted against Hingis, which means Hingis would be defending some nasty angles. nav in the mid 80's was as fast or faster than anyone on the tour today, so I don't think Hingis could hit winners past her routinely. Reality is, Nav at say, 26, was bigger, faster, stronger and good at playing long rallies, since she faced Evert so many times.

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

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This is the first one of these that's interesting. Navratilova made the Wimbledon final in 1994 or 1995. She was 38 I think. Hingis won it in 1997. So, arguably, Hingis at her most dominant wasn't a lot better than Navratilova at 38. Hingis won her last slam at 19 or 20. Navratilova won her first at 23.

Gotta go with Nav.
I agree Navratilova would be too good even for a peak Hingis. However, a 38 year old Navra would have lost regulary to a 17-19 yr old Hingis. The bolded sentence: that's just absurd, Navra at 38 would not have beaten the Hingis of '97-'00.

Hingis during this period loved targets and her passing shots were just as good or almost as good as Everts, her backhand was the most accurate shot in tennis during this period. I am aware that Navra is the best player at net ever and Novotna does not even compare to her, but Hingis loved the targets Jana gave her anytime during this period.

Nonetheless, a Navra in her mid 20's would beat a peak Hingis quite often. 7-3 or something to that effect would be their hypothetic h2h. On the other hand Hingis of the era '97-'00 would have a 6-3 or 7-4 hypothetic h2h against a 37 or 38 yr old Navra. (mainly losing when she ocassionally got so out of shape or had one of those rare off days during her dominant period)

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

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This is the first one of these that's interesting. Navratilova made the Wimbledon final in 1994 or 1995. She was 38 I think. Hingis won it in 1997. So, arguably, Hingis at her most dominant wasn't a lot better than Navratilova at 38. Hingis won her last slam at 19 or 20. Navratilova won her first at 23.

Nav would get to net anytime she wanted against Hingis, which means Hingis would be defending some nasty angles. nav in the mid 80's was as fast or faster than anyone on the tour today, so I don't think Hingis could hit winners past her routinely. Reality is, Nav at say, 26, was bigger, faster, stronger and good at playing long rallies, since she faced Evert so many times.

Gotta go with Nav.
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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

with their styles of games, I'd have to go with Hingis. Hingis can pretty much do what Nav can do. But I'd love to have seen both these girls play.

They did play right, on a couple of occassions?
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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

Hingis

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

Hingis, but enough with the peak threads already

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

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with their styles of games, I'd have to go with Hingis. Hingis can pretty much do what Nav can do. But I'd love to have seen both these girls play.

They did play right, on a couple of occassions?
Sorry, but Hingis has never been able to do what Nav can do. Did you ever see Nav at her peak?

Hingis serves and volleys once or twice a set as a surprise tactic. Martina stayed back from the net once or twice a set so their games are very different.

Martina's serve at her peak would allow her to get to net against Hingis, plus Martina's net approaches (at her peak) would penetrate enough to trouble Hingis.

At their peaks, Id give the H2H advantage to Martina by about 7-3.

Martina from 35+ would probably lose to Hingis more often than not - Martina a step or two slower than her peak would have problems establishing dominance at the net..
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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

peak threads are speculative and purely imaginative and therefore fun. there is no right answer. just opinions.
That said, peak Navrat would beat peak Hingis. Martina was peak during a transitive period of the game. Nav's serve and volley would not be threatened by hingis' power, allowing nav to rush the net and make the volley. the inspiration always wins over the namesake.
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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

hingis beats navartilova for me, all the time. hingis groundstrokes are too consistent and accurate, plus she can move. and its not like hingis cant take the net from navra. THOUGH APPARENTLY NOW, SHE DOESNT WANT TO TAKE THE NET AT ALL, NOT FROM ANYONE.

they did play tean tennis in 2005, and hingis won 5-0. but peak hingis vs. peak navra would have been so fun to watch...

LOL imagine if 10 years from now if these "peak" threads still exist, we would still be comparing someone to peak hingis or sharapova or williams, but to some new top player.
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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

This to me is one of the easiest in this seemingly never-endng "PEAK" series of hypotheticals...

The best all round tennis I have ever seen a woman play has come from Navratilova...
Navratilova circa 1983 -1986 would be too powerful and too athletic for Hingis and would certainly win quite handily on most occasions.

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Re: Peak Navratilova against Peak Hingis

With other 'peak' threads, most agree that Serena/Venus/Maria/Lindsay etc. would beat Evert/Nav/etc. with modern racquet technology, but Evert/Nav/etc. would beat Serena/Venus/Maria/Lindsay etc. with wooden racquets.

What makes Hingis so interesting is that her style of play -- although extremely succesful with modern racquet technology -- would have thrived with wooden racquets. Her touch, her lobs, her consistency, her ability to half-volley and take the ball early, her movement... it all makes me think that not only would Hingis win these hypothetical matches now, but would also win if they were played decades ago

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