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in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

i'll go first.

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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

What's this obsession with always having to rank everything.
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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

1. Capriati
2. Seles
3. Pierce
4. Hingis
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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

It's hard for me to do..... anyway, here's my opinion.

The Greatest : Steffi Graf & Martina Hingis
The Great : Martina Navratilova, Monica Seles
Very Excellent : Serena Williams, Justine Henin, Lindsay Davenport, Arantxa S. Vicario
Very Good : Amelie Mauresmo, Natalie Tauziat, Mary Pierce, Jana Novotna, Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati

...And I think Monica, Jennifer and Martina H. could have been much better if they hadn't semi-retirement during their prime due to injury or something.

Those are the girls I think are the top girls in tennis.
Go, girls!!!!
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It's hard for me to do..... anyway, here's my opinion.

The Greatest : Steffi Graf & Martina Hingis
The Great : Martina Navratilova, Monica Seles
Very Excellent : Serena Williams, Justine Henin, Lindsay Davenport, Arantxa S. Vicario
Very Good : Amelie Mauresmo, Natalie Tauziat, Mary Pierce, Jana Novotna, Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati

...And I think Monica, Jennifer and Martina H. could have been much better if they hadn't semi-retirement during their prime due to injury or something.

Those are the girls I think are the top girls in tennis.
Go, girls!!!!

No please, are you kidding? Tauziat at the same level as Mary, Amélie and Venus????

Cara Black - Liezel Huber - Mary Pierce

Chanelle Scheepers - Abigail Spears - Vladka Uhlirova - Mervana Jugic-Salkic - Francesca Schiavone -Tsvetana Pironkova - Lisa Raymond - Sophie Lefèvre...
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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

I can't rank, as I am too young to remember peak Graf or peak Navratilova.
But among those I know:

1. Serena
2. Hingis
3. Mary
4. Seles
5. Hénin

Don't know Capriati enough to put her in the list either.

Cara Black - Liezel Huber - Mary Pierce

Chanelle Scheepers - Abigail Spears - Vladka Uhlirova - Mervana Jugic-Salkic - Francesca Schiavone -Tsvetana Pironkova - Lisa Raymond - Sophie Lefèvre...
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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

Has everyone forgotten who Hana Mandlikova, Chris Evert, Margaret Court, Maureen Conolly, Suzanne Lenglen, Helen Wills Moody, and Evonne Goolagong were? And that's just off the top of my head.

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Has everyone forgotten who Hana Mandlikova, Chris Evert, Margaret Court, Maureen Conolly, Suzanne Lenglen, Helen Wills Moody, and Evonne Goolagong were? And that's just off the top of my head.
Actually, I've never seen them play, so I can't judge! Except Evert, and long after she played. But these top 5 and stuff are always kind of a crap to me, as it is totally impossibile to compare, the surroundings, periods, styles, .... being so different!
It always makes me laugh when, for soccer, young kids say Zidane is the best player ever, except maybe Pelé and Platini... while they can't know them!

About Lenglen, the only thing we see is pictures of her finals in RG, but how can you judge how good she was? What her style was? Impossible. That's why I only refer to the players I've seen play and from the same or so generation! (and it can not even be accurate!)

Cara Black - Liezel Huber - Mary Pierce

Chanelle Scheepers - Abigail Spears - Vladka Uhlirova - Mervana Jugic-Salkic - Francesca Schiavone -Tsvetana Pironkova - Lisa Raymond - Sophie Lefèvre...
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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

I agree, It's hard to judge players 'talent' if I have never seen them play. I have been watching since the late 70's so...

1. Steffi
2. Navratilova
3. Hingis
4. Serena
5. Evert

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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

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It's hard for me to do..... anyway, here's my opinion.

The Greatest : Steffi Graf & Martina Hingis
The Great : Martina Navratilova, Monica Seles
Very Excellent : Serena Williams, Justine Henin, Lindsay Davenport, Arantxa S. Vicario
Very Good : Amelie Mauresmo, Natalie Tauziat, Mary Pierce, Jana Novotna, Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati

...And I think Monica, Jennifer and Martina H. could have been much better if they hadn't semi-retirement during their prime due to injury or something.

Those are the girls I think are the top girls in tennis.
Go, girls!!!!
I mostly agree but my my Greatest will include Evert and Navratilova, and my Great will include Serena, my very good will be Venus, Amelie, Mary, Capriati no Novotna and Tauziat.

I won't add any others because I don't have time to think about it too much now.

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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

Navratilova
Graf
Court
King
Evert

NOTE: I never saw Helen Wills Moody play, so I can't really measure her. But 19 slams, at a time when they only played three a year, is ridiculously dominant.

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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

I can thank the Tennis Channel for affording me the fortune of having witnessed Maureen Connolly on a tennis court. It was just breathtaking watching this ferocious and bubbly competitor tear apart her opponents and their aspirations of winning a match against her.

In fact I've been able to catch a few classic matches of Lenglen and Wills Moody, how gracious and elegant were these tennis champions. Lenglen was so balletic it was just mesmerizing to watch her move around the court.

So I guess in terms of historical and all time significance:
Lenglen
Connolly
Goolagong
Hingis
Mandlikova
Navratilova for her volleys and lefty serve (skills in general)

Venus } These two exemplify Athleticism at it's best: ferocious movement with combined authority and grace.
Serena
Davenport (cleanest ball striking of the modern day game)

Graf needs a special place of her own she was just the modern tennis prototype, if you want to be a tennis player watch her play, and learn from her footwork and mobility on the court and her achievements speak for themselves.

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there" Unknown ???

Hoping to see great tennis from Lindsay Davenport, Monica Seles, Mary Pierce, Amelie Mauresmo, Elena Dementieva, Jelena Jankovic and Ana Ivanovic. Venus's backhand rocks!!!!!!!!!

Hingis will always sparkle in my eyes because
"No one plays like Hingis – no one else could." as Carillo wrote.









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Re: in term's of talent and ablity...rank your top five ladies of all time.

i have a feeling this thread might get carried away and end up focusing on players' achievements rather than ability and talent as proposed

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