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Missing players disastrous for image of women's tennis

I don't think most people on here realise how terrible it really is.

Men's tennis has its problems right now, with no one really threatening Federer. Still, he and his main "rivals" Nadal and Roddick will be at Indian Wells, as will be all the young guns (Murray, Djokovic, Gasquet et al.), making it an event that's guaranteed to have excitement and some great matches.

Women's tennis is in much deeper shit though.
We have a GS winner who, after being out for several months, returns steamrolling the rest of the field, only to vanish again.
We have arguably the best player on the tour right now and in the past few years who has just won two titles, yet she will miss the second biggest event of the year so far, after missing the first one as well.
And we have the current holder of two GS titles, firmly belonging in the top 4 players in the world, who will be absent as well.

Is it too bold to predict that the women's event will play second fiddle to the men in IW and be another anti-advertisement for the WTA?
As I said before, we need Serena vs. Justine, just like the ATP needs Federer vs. Nadal. They played many memorable matches last year, and not only at the Slams. This was possible because they actually played the same events (gasp!), and partly because the ATP system encourages them to do so.
But you can count the tournaments that will have both Justine and Serena in the draw on one hand, or maybe less.

Without any rivalries, women's tennis is doomed. Right now there are none because the top-players keep missing the biggest events. To them, the term "Tier I winner" is just as prestigious as it sounds - not at all. And that's a pathetic effort from all sides.
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Quite frankly I couldn't care less about this tournie. I won't even watch it either because I'm in the east so I have no interest in staying up late. I just want these two weeks to go by quickly so Miami can begin.

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Re: Missing players disastrous for image of women's tennis

It's only disastrous if all people do is focus on all this negativity. There's simply no need. This is not a mandatory tournament, it's got 6 of the top 10 women there thus fulfilling the agreement between the tournament and the WTA, and the field is pretty strong out of the top 10.

All this whining about who's not there just amplifies the feeling that this is a problem - it's not.

I think Indian Wells should be mandatory also and I gather moves are afoot to make it so by 2009, but at the moment it isn't and for an optional Tier 1 it has a very good field and I'm looking forward to it. Compared to Pan Pacific this year, Charleston last year and the mess that was Montreal, Indian Wells is doing pretty well to pull the players in. It's a stronger field than last year.
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15 of the top 20 have entered IW - I think we may be in for some excellent WTA tennis over the next couple of weeks. Can't wait for the tourney to start!
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Well, it could be worse. If Justine decided to play IW instead of Miami like she did some years ago, the chance of Justine vs. Serena would be even lower (I know that Miami is mandatory now, but still :P)
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It's not THAT bad.

But how pathetic is this, Canada doesn't even get coverage

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I think the problem is scheduling.
With the MidEast tournies becoming sooo popular and Miami being mandatory, a tournament like IW is bound to get the shitty end of the stick. Especially next year when Doha becomes a Tier I.
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I think this is a great tournament. It has all the top men and most of the WTA's top 20.

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Is it too bold to predict that the women's event will play second fiddle to the men in IW and be another anti-advertisement for the WTA?
Even if the all the top players had shown up, the womens' tournie would still have played second fiddle to the mens' as it usually does.
Canada doesn't even show it.

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Even if the all the top players had shown up, the womens' tournie would still have played second fiddle to the mens' as it usually does.
Canada doesn't even show it.
That's mainly why I'm not a big fan of mixed events.


Sure it woulod be nice to have all the top players at IW but I don't think one tourney without all the top girls is really going to hurt the tour in the long run.


Plus the field is pretty darn good IMO. There are established players and raising stars. Maria & Martina are going to put butts in the seats.

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I don't think most people on here realise how terrible it really is.

Men's tennis has its problems right now, with no one really threatening Federer. Still, he and his main "rivals" Nadal and Roddick will be at Indian Wells, as will be all the young guns (Murray, Djokovic, Gasquet et al.), making it an event that's guaranteed to have excitement and some great matches.

Women's tennis is in much deeper shit though.
We have a GS winner who, after being out for several months, returns steamrolling the rest of the field, only to vanish again.
We have arguably the best player on the tour right now and in the past few years who has just won two titles, yet she will miss the second biggest event of the year so far, after missing the first one as well.
And we have the current holder of two GS titles, firmly belonging in the top 4 players in the world, who will be absent as well.

Is it too bold to predict that the women's event will play second fiddle to the men in IW and be another anti-advertisement for the WTA?
As I said before, we need Serena vs. Justine, just like the ATP needs Federer vs. Nadal. They played many memorable matches last year, and not only at the Slams. This was possible because they actually played the same events (gasp!), and partly because the ATP system encourages them to do so.
But you can count the tournaments that will have both Justine and Serena in the draw on one hand, or maybe less.

Without any rivalries, women's tennis is doomed. Right now there are none because the top-players keep missing the biggest events. To them, the term "Tier I winner" is just as prestigious as it sounds - not at all. And that's a pathetic effort from all sides.
Not to nitpick, but Mauresmo currently holds 1 grandslam right now.

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Sure it woulod be nice to have all the top players at IW but I don't think one tourney without all the top girls is really going to hurt the tour in the long run.


Plus the field is pretty darn good IMO. There are established players and raising stars. Maria & Martina are going to put butts in the seats.
One??? It happens on a regular basis.

And the field is NOT pretty darn good, considering it's the 7th biggest event of the year. Three of the top 4 players are absent.
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Not to nitpick, but Mauresmo currently holds 1 grandslam right now.
Correct.
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Re: Missing players disastrous for image of women's tennis

Bigger picture: the WTA players feel there are too many tournaments and not enough time to rest. They don't want to play a lot. Call it what you want, but the idea of 2 tournaments back to back for many of the players strikes fear in their hearts.

Why Justine chose to play both ME tournies back to back instead of IW & Miami I don't know. I guess she just likes that area and those tournies better? We can all understand why she loves Dubai.

Serena...well...if she plays 5 total tournaments this year that'll be an improvement over last year.

How about Kim? Wtf is she up to? Skipping Roland Garros in her final year so that she can play Eastbourne? There's something just so wrong about that.

They need to space out these major tournies more, but at the same time they need to take measures to strongly discourage the diva attitudes of some of the top players, who only care about Grand Slams and perhaps YEC.
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Amelie has only had 1 week off after several weeks of tourney with 2 finals. Justine won 2 of them back to back and would have to travel very far and then turn around and play Miami. Even Federer would not do that! Why Kim is skipping is a little harder to explain but she is phasing tennis out as she is retiring anyways. Maria skipped Dubai and Doha and got criticized but she was injured still. It's just too many events back to back to back so this is how it goes!
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