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Why the hell does Hingis get such criticism?????

Seriously, every 2nd thread I read about Martina is about the number of tournaments she's entered and the fact that she doesn't deserve her ranking or seeding.

These people are full of absolute crap.

I'm not going to list Hingis' credentials and achievements in the past year - but in my opinion - her ranking of No.6 is accurate (and at times I think she's better than Kuznetsova who is above her - and results support that).

So what if she is 2nd seed at Indian Wells (she's actually 3rd seed now that Kuznetsova has entered)???
Hingis deserves to be where she is. There are MANY players around her who play just as many or MORE to achieve their ranking and nobody ever says a thing.

Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Schnyder, Petrova, Vaidisova, Chakvetadze, Safina, Ivanovic and Jankovic have all played more tournaments and are 'BEHIND' Hingis. It has nothing to do with the number of tournaments played.....she deserves to be where she is and plays no more tournaments (20 in total) than any other player who is injury-free in the top 10.

On top of that, I'm sick of everyone jumping on the bandwagon....''Hingis should retire'', ''hingis is losing her legacy'', ''hingis is hopeless'' because she loses.

Yes, she lost to Hantuchova after being up 6-1 4-1....but people who actually watch the match will see that whilst Hingis could have played better, Hantuchova was really on fire. Everybody has their off-days....it doesn't mean that Hingis is not as good anymore....She won Tokyo just a month ago beating Dementieva and Ivanovic in succession....how bout people focus on the positives rather than negatives??

I dare say that most criticism is from Williams supporters who feel now that Serena has won a slam again that they can open their mouths with crap about Hingis.....If Serena played more, yeah she'd be ranked above Martina (BUT SHE'D ALSO BE RANKED ABOVE THE OTHER 14 PLAYERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY ABOVE HER, ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT HENIN)...the fact is, she doesn't play enough tournaments.....Hingis deserves her ranking and her seeding at Indian Wells. Period.

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Another slap at slap at Williams fans.

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You have to look at where it's coming from and then you'll get your answer Captain. It's pretty obvious really. Most other fan bases respect Martina ... (except maybe two) , but then again, they diss most fan bases, so it's not surprising is it?

Remember Captain, those dissing and criticising are the ones sitting at home in front of their computer whilst Martina is the legend and multi-millionairess tennis player - something all the dissers have wanted to be but could not.
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Another slap at slap at Williams fans.
Not surprised are you? It is mainly the Williams fans that slag off the other players, so it's understandable.
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Re: Why the hell does Hingis get such criticism?????

Because despite all the criticisms of her game, she hasn't really improved any of the aspects of her game to be a true bonaide contender at the slams. This isn't about disliking Hingis (which I do) it's just plain true. For all the talk about Venus' technique on the forehand and on her serve, when it's all working (like it was in Wimbledon 05) she is still a force to be reckoned with and anybody would be a fool to bet against her. Hingis has pretty much maxed out her game with the way she's playing. Of course it's still an amazing game (she is number 6 after all) but the game she's playing now is the same game she was playing in 2000 and she still hasn't won a slam. Is it good enough to beat the power players? Well yeah, but she can't rely on it to beat a bunch of them in succession just like she couldn't count on it before she retired.

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Re: Why the hell does Hingis get such criticism?????

Sucksess=Jealousy=Criticism



Same for Maria Sharapova, S. williams, JJ or whoevers on a roll.

Just the way this board is.
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Re: Why the hell does Hingis get such criticism?????

I've never dissed her for her ranking (which is, obviously, fully deserved IMO) but I have been been critical after some her her performances so far this year.

I don't know if I can call myself a fan, but I like Hingis a lot, and want to see her do well. So when she puts in these complete bullshit performances (Kim, Na @ the AO, Hantuchova @ Quatar) it's just really, really frustrating. The Hingis of old would be a MAJOR force on the tour today. It's hard to understand how such a great player can go backwards.

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Re: Why the hell does Hingis get such criticism?????

Because seeing Hingis lose to players like Hantuchova is disappointing.
She's better than that.
Have you ever thought that she may get stick from Williams fans because Hingis fans dish out a lot of shit too? Imagine that.
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Seriously, every 2nd thread I read about Martina is about the number of tournaments she's entered and the fact that she doesn't deserve her ranking or seeding.
That thread was started by a JuJu fan, NOT a Williams fan.

So, if we're REALLY considering the source, consider that.

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I might wind-up a few of her fans here from time to time - but I enjoy watching Martina. I hear a lot about the Hingis of old, can someone tell me what is missing from comeback Hingis's game compared to Hingis in her no. 1 pomp. Is it simply the power which is the difference - are these girls on tour just returning a lot heavier, more consistently now?
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The only criticism I can see of Hingis is that at times, she could be doing even better. Right now in tennis, she has the perfect opportunity to add to her slam tally, but she needs to get her heart into it.

Hingis was so good so early she didn't even need to learn how to fight. It's almost amazing if you think about how easily she dominated. Now's the time where she needs to wear her heart on her sleeve. I'm glad she's out there having a great time in the top 10. Nobpdy's taking that away, but she's already blown the australian open this year, if you ask me (she should have beaten kim...) I just really hope to see her shine on the clay and FINALLY win roland garros. Her star and legend status would shine 10X brighter if she could find the heart to win the event she was born to win.
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That thread was started by a JuJu fan, NOT a Williams fan.

So, if we're REALLY considering the source, consider that.
You are so fucking obsessed with Justine, its pathetic.
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...can someone tell me what is missing from comeback Hingis's game compared to Hingis in her no. 1 pomp.
Belief and daring are what's missing from game in her "no. 1 pomp." But even then she was struggling with power. Also, no REAL weapon that she can depend on other than her guile (which is considerable), but even that can be nullified with power and accuracy.

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You are so fucking obsessed with Justine, its pathetic.
I just stated a fact.

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....She won Tokyo just a month ago beating Dementieva and Ivanovic in succession....how bout people focus on the positives rather than negatives??
No one does that, and neither do you.. or else you would say atleast there aren't that many threads about Martina.. or you might say wow a lot of these people keep Martina on their mind... or a multitude of many different options.

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