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Best Australian Open Final, 1993 #1 Seles vs #2 Graff???

Best Australian Open Final (women's), 1993 #1 Seles vs #2 Graff???

Was this the best Australian women's final in the Open Era?
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quality wise yes

drama wise - AO 2002 final takes the cake
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*sigh* The ace down the middle at break point at 2-3 in the third.... Monica was on a mission from that saved break point to the title.
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best finals
1993 AO final is great
2002 final is the most dramatic one
2003 final is great too, a lot of rallies and emotions

worst finals
2004 everyone remembers that bad call for Kim at 3*-4 final set
2005 Lindsay was totally off in the final set, its amazing to me
2006 JHH has too many UEs when she on court, then she retired lol
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Nothing comes close to the 1993 final. John Barett stated after the match that he believed it was the greatest women's tennis match he had ever seen, up to that point in time. The quality was very high, which was astounding considering how hard Steffi and Monica hit and how close to the lines they hit. Steffi fought valiantly, but Monica was in a class of her own and would have none of it.

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it's got my vote.
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Only to Seles fans. And, only because Seles won the match.

Steffi played quite poorly in the second, and especially in the third set. If I remember correctly, Seles won more points in the third set from Steffi's unforced errors than her own outright winners.

If you want an example of a closely contested match between these two, the best example would be the '98 WTA Championship Quarters. Everything about that match except the first set was a fight to the finish.

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Only to Seles fans. And, only because Seles won the match.

Steffi played quite poorly in the second, and especially in the third set. If I remember correctly, Seles won more points in the third set from Steffi's unforced errors than her own outright winners.

If you want an example of a closely contested match between these two, the best example would be the '98 WTA Championship Quarters. Everything about that match except the first set was a fight to the finish.
Only Stefanie Graff fans could not appreciate the very high quality of the this historic classic match as Monica Seles was going for her third consecutive Australian Open crown and still remained the undisputed #1 player in the world. And, only because as expected, the undisputed #2 player in the world Steffi Graff lost decisively in the third and final set 2-6 as well as losing 3 of her 5 Grand Slam matches against Seles.

This was the match the proved to the world why Monica Seles was #1 and why Stefanie Graff was not.

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Seles, Bold as Ever, Punches Past Graf
International Herald Tribune
Monday, February 1, 1993

It has become one of the sporting cliches of the 1990s: Monica Seles with warmup jacket neatly zipped up, clutching a large silver trophy as a horde of photographers jostle for a clear view.
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The scene was replayed Saturday at Flinders Park, just as it has been replayed before at Roland Garros and Flushing Meadow.
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"I never thought I'd do so well in Grand Slams," Seles said after beating Steffi Graf, 4-6, 6-3, 6-2, to win her third straight Australian Open.
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Few have done so well so young. At 19, Seles has won eight Grand Slam singles titles, including seven of the last nine. The only leg to so far escape her is Wimbledon, where she did not play in 1991 and where Graf beat her in straight sets in 1992.
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As for the other three Slams, the novelty is long gone. With her two-fisted ground strokes, two-toned grunt and remarkable will, Seles is more than a formidable shotmaker. She is a psychological force.
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"It is her desire and her incredible self-confidence," said Graf, asked why Seles is so difficult to beat.
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Saturday's match was in some respects of higher quality than last year's memorable French Open final, in which Seles beat Graf, 10-8, in the third set.
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The standard of play Saturday was consistently high from the start and Graf was considerably less erratic from the baseline than in Paris. As a rule, points were won, rather than lost.
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"With Steffi, we both hit the ball so hard and go for our shots," Seles said. "You cannot let your mind go for a minute or you've got a winner whizzing past you."
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The outcome hinged on the sixth and seventh games of the final set. Serving at 2-3 and 30-0, Graf hit a lovely serve wide to Seles' backhand and was rewarded with a ferocious crosscourt return that landed smack on the line.
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Two points later, Seles hit another bolt off the forehand side to get her first break-point opportunity of the set. Graf saved it by winning a baseline rally.
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But the momentum was visibly shifting, as Seles fearlessly continued chasing balls down in the corners and going for her shots. She finally got the break and a 4-2 lead when Graf nailed a forehand just long.
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"I knew whoever got the break in the third set, it would be quite important," Seles said. Indeed, it meant the match, as Seles finished out the set holding her serve and breaking Graf.

Graf didn't help her own cause by repeating her French Open mistake and attempting to beat Seles almost exclusively from the baseline.
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Seles, Bold as Ever, Punches Past Graf
International Herald Tribune
Monday, February 1, 1993

It has become one of the sporting cliches of the 1990s: Monica Seles with warmup jacket neatly zipped up, clutching a large silver trophy as a horde of photographers jostle for a clear view.
.
The scene was replayed Saturday at Flinders Park, just as it has been replayed before at Roland Garros and Flushing Meadow.
.
"I never thought I'd do so well in Grand Slams," Seles said after beating Steffi Graf, 4-6, 6-3, 6-2, to win her third straight Australian Open.
.
Few have done so well so young. At 19, Seles has won eight Grand Slam singles titles, including seven of the last nine. The only leg to so far escape her is Wimbledon, where she did not play in 1991 and where Graf beat her in straight sets in 1992.
.
As for the other three Slams, the novelty is long gone. With her two-fisted ground strokes, two-toned grunt and remarkable will, Seles is more than a formidable shotmaker. She is a psychological force.
.
"It is her desire and her incredible self-confidence," said Graf, asked why Seles is so difficult to beat.
.
Saturday's match was in some respects of higher quality than last year's memorable French Open final, in which Seles beat Graf, 10-8, in the third set.
.
The standard of play Saturday was consistently high from the start and Graf was considerably less erratic from the baseline than in Paris. As a rule, points were won, rather than lost.
.
"With Steffi, we both hit the ball so hard and go for our shots," Seles said. "You cannot let your mind go for a minute or you've got a winner whizzing past you."
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The outcome hinged on the sixth and seventh games of the final set. Serving at 2-3 and 30-0, Graf hit a lovely serve wide to Seles' backhand and was rewarded with a ferocious crosscourt return that landed smack on the line.
.
Two points later, Seles hit another bolt off the forehand side to get her first break-point opportunity of the set. Graf saved it by winning a baseline rally.
.
But the momentum was visibly shifting, as Seles fearlessly continued chasing balls down in the corners and going for her shots. She finally got the break and a 4-2 lead when Graf nailed a forehand just long.
.
"I knew whoever got the break in the third set, it would be quite important," Seles said. Indeed, it meant the match, as Seles finished out the set holding her serve and breaking Graf.

Graf didn't help her own cause by repeating her French Open mistake and attempting to beat Seles almost exclusively from the baseline.
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I would put 2002 slightly ahead, simply for the drama and sheer will that both Jen and Martina showed by even staying on the court. That was an insane moment in recent tennis history but it was also amazing!

1. 2002 Jen Def. Martina, DRAMA!
2. 1993 Monica Def. Graf, Monica at her peak!
3. 2003 Serena Def. Venus, Completed Serena Slam! Very close match...

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Hingis - Capriati, 2002 - all the way!

So tough conditions, so much drama and HUGE fight from Jennifer!
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The Aus open final is the best match i've seen from thatv era. I have it on tape and watched it not long ago.

After the first set Seles just gets better than graf and graf gets frustrated cos monica keeps getting her shots back or comes up with some amazing shots. Not sure bout the stats, i'm pretty sure Monica hit more than 5 winners in that final set.

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