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Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

You would think a top 10 player making millions of dollars would want to make her game as good as possible. Yet Dementieva is so lazy she won't work harder on her serve. She goes to the Netherlands for one week to work with Richard and that's it. If she was serious about becoming a champion she would of corrected her serve by now. And her fans make up a ton of excuses. Justine Henin Hardenne worked on her serve and her game because she wanted to be a champion. Dementieva has the tools to be a champion but she's so lazy she won't work on the serve. Without a good serve she's not winning any slams unless of course she gets an easy draw or top players lose early. That's her only shot.
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She wants to travel with her mom, and her mom is involved in coaching decisions.

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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

look at her mom
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"can this women teach you how to serve?"

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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

Well she is making all that money with this serve
So way changing it???
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Her fans love that serve... that's why she can't change it
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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

I love Elena, and to a point you are right...if she could serve she would be among the very best in the game, and would probably be the 2004 US Open champ. However, I don't think her serving woes are due to laziness, I think it's a mental thing. She CAN serve, I just think that she steps on court and automatically goes back to her old ways.
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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

That serve is NOT from laziness, it's mental.

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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

I don't think her serve can be fixed at this point. Supposedly she hits her serve well in practice but she just can't translate it into a match. It is mostly a mental problem now.

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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

The part that confuses me is how is the serve mental, yet she can tough out these three set battles just about every week? Most of her victories take tremendous drive and mental strength--but at the expense of that mostly being due to an average (now, anyway) serve.

It's just a weird situation.
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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

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Supposedly she hits her serve well in practice but she just can't translate it into a match. It is mostly a mental problem now.
That's a myth, derived from a (probably apocryphal) quote by Davenport in which she is supposed to have said that Lena D. serves bombs in practice.

A Portuguese ES guest commentator who saw Lena D. practice down under back in January 2006 says that, from a technical POV, just about everything is wrong with Lena D.'s serve, starting with the toss.

Lena can serve well on occasion, basically by hitting another first serve after faulting the first time and praying that it goes in. It worked vs Hingis at the Tokyo final. She tried to do the same vs Maria at the YEC and buried herself in DFs.

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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

yeah, you can clearly tell that the last thing wrong with the serve is laziness.

do you really think elena dementieva, a top 10 player and major contender in every single tournament she plays in would think "you know what, i can't be bothered to fix this serve. in fact, i think i'll just remain the talk of the tour and never get that crucial slam..."

yeah, that doesn't really sound like elena to me

i bet she has worked her arse off on that serve for her WHOLE tennis career! can you imagine who frickin' frustrating that would be?! you think you've finally make some headway in practice and come the final, you completely crumble under the pressure and double fault over and over again. the double faults are often the difference between her winning and her losing!

i actually feel really bad for her and i hope she somehow finds a way to overcome this clear issue. i think its a combination of mental issues that have escalated over time (all this talk of her bad serve) and also the fact that her serve isn't naturally brilliant. like with most issues, i think it involves both nature and nurture. the sad thing is that i know that if she sorts the serve then there will be very little out in the tennis world to stop her.

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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

Found very interesting video on YouTube about her serve:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YpIgzWqz548

So far it's a pure technique, not some mental problems.

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Lazy? wtf Lena is one of the fittest players on the tour. Do you think it's possible when you are lazy? She works hard to be where she's now and to achieve what she's achieved.
Yes, she has to improve her serve, but the problem is NOT her laziness.
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It must be mental.
You can bet in practice 99% of the serves are on the money. When she gets the serve right it is effective enough. Maybe she should have ditched one whole season earlier in her career to subconsciously get the damn thing right - turned up for tourneys and just played without worrying about results, points, rankings etc.
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Re: Why is Dementieva so lazy with the serve?

Not lazy, she just needs a good full-time coach to fix it...
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