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Comparing Davenport.Hingis.Clijsters.V/S Williams.Henin.Sharapova & Mauresmo

Davenport's retirement from the game prompted me to away and do a bit of research on other players careers and look into just how dominant they have been...

I think somebody else wrote in and said that Davenport was never a shining star like the others, just somebody who worked hard, and got the job done consistently for many years (unlike those who were supposedly better/more talented etc.)

So I took a look at all the major tournaments played and compared her to the other 'greats' or potential 'greats of the last 10 years....I've excluded Seles and Graf because I feel that their best tennis came well before Lindsay's....

TOKYO PAN PACIFICDavenport 1998,2001,2003,2004Hingis 1997, 1999, 2000, 2002Sharapova 2005SYDNEYDavenport 1999Hingis 1997,2001,2002Clijsters 2003Henin Hardeene 2004,2006Mauresmo 2000AUSTRALIAN OPENDavenport 2000Hingis 1997,1998,1999Henin Hardeene 2004S.Williams 2003,2005Mauresmo 2006
PARIS [INDOORS]Hingis 1997Clijsters 2004V.Williams 2002S.Williams 1999,2003Mauresmo 2001,2006DUBAIDavenport 2005Hingis 2001HeninHardeene2003,2004,2006Mauresmo 2002INDIAN WELLSDavenport 1997, 2000Hingis 1998Clijsters 2003,2005Henin Hardeene 2004S.Williams 1999,2001Sharapova 2006MIAMIHingis 1997,2000Clijsters 2005V.Williams 1998,1999,2001S.Williams 2002,2003,2004FAMILY CIRCLE CUPHingis 1997,1999V.Williams 2004Henin Hardeene 2003,2005BERLINHingis 1999Henin Hardeene 2002,2003,2005Mauresmo 2001,2004ROMEHingis 1998,2006Clijsters 2003V.Williams 1999S.Williams 2002Mauresmo 2004,2005ROLAND GARROSHenin Hardeene 2003,2005,2006S.Williams 2002WIMBLEDONDavenport 1999Hingis 1997V.Williams 2000,2001,2005S.Williams 2002,2003Sharapova 2004Mauresmo 2006SAN DIEGODavenport 1998,2004Hingis 1997,1999V.Williams 2000,2001,2002Henin Hardeene 2003Sharapova 2006CANADIAN OPENHingis 1999,2000Clijsters 2005Henin Hardeene 2003S.Williams 2001Mauresmo 2002,2004US OPENDavenport 1998Hingis 1997Clijsters 2005V.Williams 2000,2001Henin Hardeene 2003S.Williams 1999,2003Sharapova 2006MOSCOWHingis 2000PORSCHE GRAND PRIXDavenport 2001,2004,2005Hingis 1996,1997,1999,2000Clijsters 2002,2003ZURICHDavenport 1997,1998,2001,2005Hingis 2000V.Williams 1999Henin Hardeene 2003Sharapova 2006CHAMPIONSHIPSDavenport 1999Hingis 1998,2000Clijsters 2002,2003Henin Hardeene 2006S.Williams 2001Sharapova 2004Mauresmo 2005


Now guys, correct me if i'm wrong...but some interesting facts which intrigued me....

*Davenport NEVER won Miami - pretty much the only American hardcourt tournament which she never captured.
*Serena and Henin Hardeene are the only 2 that have won Roland Garros.
*Davenport NEVER won any of the major clay court events
*With the exception of Paris [Indoors] 2002, Venus has never won any of the important events in the first part of the year on hardcourts (before Miami - i think she hates Australia lol).
*Hingis is the only player out of the 8 of them to have won Moscow.
*Every player has won the Year end Championships EXCEPT Venus Williams.
*Every player has won the US Open EXCEPT Mauresmo
*Between 1997-2004, only 3 players won Miami - Serena, Venus, Hingis.
*In every tournament listed above, Hingis has been a champion, except Roland Garros.
*Serena has never won a major indoor event apart from the Championships in 2002.
*Hingis and Davenport were the only two champions in Tokyo from 1997-2004 until Sharapova won in 2005.
*Henin Hardeene (the best clay court player ever) has NEVER WON the most prestigious clay court Roland Garros warm-up event in Rome.

let me know what you think!

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Great to see Hingis and Davenport's names in almost all the biggest tournaments They both have one hell of a career

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Well, Justine doesn't play Rome, so it's hard for her to win it.. She plays Berlin instead.
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Wow, had Lindsay won the '05 Tokyo final and Hingis the '06 final, they would have owned that event from 1997-2006

Also, Henin-Hardenne is not the greatest clay-court player ever

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i hope Hingis doesnt go as the greatest player who have never won RG
But unless she bucks up or henin screws up, i am afraid she might happen

she missed alot of chances in the late 90s

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*In every tournament listed above, Hingis has been a champion, except Roland Garros.


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*Henin Hardeene (the best clay court player ever) has NEVER WON the most prestigious clay court Roland Garros warm-up event in Rome.
Why would rome be more prestigious than Belrin ? plus Justine has almost never played in Rome, that would be an explanation lol (she only played once in 2002 and lost in the final)

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Also, Henin-Hardenne is not the greatest clay-court player ever
I love Justine but, no, she's not. Chris Evert's record on clay is
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I love Justine but, no, she's not. Chris Evert's record on clay is
Not yet, no. But time is on her side, if she say wins 3 more RG titles before she retires she may have a shot.

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*Henin Hardenne (the best clay court player ever) has NEVER WON the most prestigious clay court Roland Garros warm-up event in Rome.
Er... did you just forgot the legendary clay court queen, Chris Evert... or that was a joke?

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Not yet, no. But time is on her side, if she say wins 3 more RG titles before she retires she may have a shot.
Evert won 7 RG titles. She had a 125 match winning streak on clay.

I don't see Justine winning 8 RG titles in total or getting close to that win streak. I hope she will but I'm realistic!
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Evert won 7 RG titles. She had a 125 match winning streak on clay.

I don't see Justine winning 8 RG titles in total or getting close to that win streak. I hope she will but I'm realistic!
125.........easy. I guess you're probably right then.

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Lindsay was so consistent on the tour. At nearly every tournament she regularly played, she has been the champion, aswell as reaching the later stages every year.

She and Hingis owned the Pan Pacific Open. Both share a record of 4 singles titles. Also at Scottsdale, Indian Wells, Amelia Island, Charleston (her favourite of the big claycourt events), Eastbourne etc. she has played well at these places year after year....Charleston is the only one she didn't win.

and Henin is nowhere near the best claycourter of all time. I would even put Sanchez-Vicario ahead of her right now.
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Great stats, thanks for all of that! Justine, while she isn't the best claycourt player ever, definately has the potential to move on up. I'd put her below Arantxa at this point simply because Arantxa won so many clay events. However, in another 5 years Justine could easily get another 3 FO crowns.
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so Venus Williams has NEVER won 4 of the 7 biggest events on the WTA Tour? she's truly a one-trick fast-court pony

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*Henin Hardeene (the best clay court player ever) has NEVER WON the most prestigious clay court Roland Garros warm-up event in Rome.

let me know what you think!
Sorry, but Justine hasn't even come close to accomplishing what Chris Evert accomplished on clay. Not by a mile.

Bitch lost to Patty and Petrova this year alone.

(Shit, even Graf is a better clay-courter!)
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