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Question Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

... during a weak period in women's tennis?

I know what some of you are going to say: troll, hater, etc... save it! This is an honest question.

Let's consider this. The so-called Williams era started in late 99 and 2000. Just before then Steffi Graf retired and Martina Hingis went into mental collapse on the court. Two players that could've dominated for the next few years. So that left a gap.

And then the sisters dominated until around 2003. What happened in 2003? Justine arrived and then Maria arrived in 2004. A double blow for the Williams era. And we're seeing the blows continue now and it can only get worse.

So I question, was that period from late 99 to early 03, a period of just over 3 years a weak period in women's tennis? That saw Steffi Graf leave physically and Martina Hingis leave mentally then physically, and before the arrival or Justine and Maria.

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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

Dumb thread.

So, when were the strong periods of womens tennis?

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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

The Williams Sisters = Strong period in tennis.
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

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... during a weak period in women's tennis?

I know what some of you are going to say: troll, hater, etc... save it! This is an honest question.

Let's consider this. The so-called Williams era started in late 99 and 2000. Just before then Steffi Graf retired and Martina Hingis went into mental collapse on the court. Two players that could've dominated for the next few years.
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

it's a fair question to ask, but i think the what the Williams did was force the other players to lift their games and psyches to try and catch them. I think actually 2002-03 was a very strong period, when the Williams were playing at top level and the rest of the tour was fighting to catch them.

I think history has shown that the Williams were playing at a very high level above the rest of the tour for about 3 years, which ultimately it was not possible for them to maintain (for various reasons). Now they have been clearly passed not only by the top players, but by the second tier players as well, like a horse fading on the home stretch.
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Sam L just asked Williams fans to build a coffin without frills and then dug a deep hole on the ground to bury him alive.

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stupid thread, if Vee and Serena fully rededicated themselves to tennis again and were healthy they would dominate, the reason their domination didnt last long was because of injuries

you can talk about this until your face turns purple since it's hypothetical, but i don't believe that injury-free Williams sisters would have dominated the tour in 2006. Especially Venus showed poor form even when healthy.
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

Serena might win more slams if she dedicated more time to tennis.

Venus' game however has degenerated into a hopeless state. She's done.
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

Yes they did dominate, they killed their opponents. Serena only lost 5 times in 2002, that strikes out DOMINATION to me...
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

The truth is, every player accomplishes what he or she accomplishes. There are those today who say Federer is only winning so often because of weak competition.

And Graf only won so many slams because Seles was taken out by the stabbing.

The argument is used most often by her detractors about Hingis, but it is no more valid there, either. In fact, one could say that had the Hingis who beat Venus 6-1, 6-1 at the AO in 2001 not started to undergo injury problems, including the ankle surgery that took her out at the end of that year and the second ankle surgery that forced her to miss two slams in 2002, maybe the Williams sisters would not have done as well that year, either.

But these are all just ifs. Federer has won what he has won, so have Graf, Seles, Hingis, and the Willies. Claiming any of it was due to weak competition is pretty silly.
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

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Sam L just asked Williams fans to build a coffin without frills and then dug a deep hole on the ground to bury him alive.

Hope you survive this onslaught, brave man.

right. gosh, he must be really brave to even start a thread like this.

anyway the answer to the thread is NO. They dominate cause they brought a whole new aspect to the game, power game...no players were ready to face it.

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Yes she's definatley done i mean when was the last time she won a slam, oh yes last yr Wimbledon when she hammer the defnding Chamion than beat the then Number 1 Davenport in a classic just when everyone said she was done shes a journeywoman the game has completley passed her by, whatever
That was a fluke. Or, to put it more politely, an Ivanisevic-like dream run, helped by a favourable draw.

And, it was 18 months ago. Venus is even worse now.
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

I think this is a very fair question to ask but I disagree - Venus and Serena shaped the game as it is today. Davenport was still around then and was a force and they got passed her.

However are they any longer a force? consistantly - no imo
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Ye cause i mean its everyday that the 1 and 2 players in the world get beaten back to back by someone and to do it in 2 classic matches well hell sure anyone could do it thats why im winning Wimbledon these says
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: Did the Williams sisters dominate ...

Sam L is a complete idiot. That is all I will say.
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