Red Group scenarios - TennisForum.com
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 2006, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
twight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: home sweet home
Posts: 14,275
                     
Red Group scenarios

I think we're all aware of the yellow group scenarios, thanks to GoDominique and Ryan

But, here are all the red group and what will happen:


IF SHARAPOVA BEATS KUZNETSOVA, THE FOLLOWING WUOLD BE POSSIBLE:


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova
Clijsters def. Dementieva (neither set score matters)

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L
Sharapova      	3	0
Clijsters      	2	1
Kuznetsova     	1	2
Dementieva     	0	3
Sharapova advances as Red #1, Clijsters as Red #2


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-0
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-0

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L	%
Sharapova      	3	0	6	0	100
Clijsters      	1	2	2	4	33
Kuznetsova     	1	2	2	4	33
Dementieva     	1	2	2	4	33
Sharapova advances as Red #1
Clijsters, Kuznetsova, and Dementieva are tied in Match w/l, and set %, so it must go to games next. In that case, Clijsters is in the lead, however, we won't know for certain who advances until after the matches today


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-1
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-0

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L	%
Sharapova      	3	0	6	1	86
Kuznetsova     	1	2	3	4	43
Clijsters      	1	2	2	4	33
Dementieva     	1	2	2	4	33
Sharapova advances as Red #1
clijsters, kuznetsova, and dementieva all tied in Match w/l, so set % is used.
In this case, Kuznetsova would advance as Red #2.


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-0
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-1

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L	%
Sharapova      	3	0	6	0	100
Clijsters      	1	2	3	4	43
Kuznetsova     	1	2	2	4	33
Dementieva     	1	2	2	5	29
Sharapova advances as Red #1
Once again, Kim, Sveta, and Elena all tied in Match w/l, so set % is used.
Clijsters advances as Red #2


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-1
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-1

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L	%
Sharapova      	3	0	6	1	100
Clijsters      	1	2	3	4	43
Kuznetsova     	1	2	3	4	43
Dementieva     	1	2	2	5	29
Sharapova advances as Red #1
Clijsters, Kuznetsova, and Dementieva all tied at 1-2.
Clijsters and Kuznetsova are tied in set %, so Dementieva is definately out. However, i'm not sure whether they use game % or H2H to break a tie...
If they use H2H: Clijsters advances
Game %: Clijsters is in the lead, but it could go either way i do believe.





IN THE EVENT THAT KUZNETSOVA DEF. SHARAPOVA, THE FOLLOWING WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITIES:


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-0
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-0

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L 	%
Sharapova      	2	1	4	2	67
Kuznetsova     	2	1	4	2	67
Clijsters      	2	1	4	2	67
Dementieva     	0	3	1	6	14
Sharapova, Kuznetsova and Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used, they're still tied
Game % is used. Won't be able to tell until after the matches


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-1
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-0

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L 	%
Sharapova      	2	1	5	2	71
Clijsters      	2	1	4	2	67
Kuznetsova     	2	1	4	3	57
Dementieva     	0	3	1	6	14
Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used
Sharapova advances as Red #1, Clijsters as Red #2


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-0
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-1

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L 	%
Sharapova      	2	1	4	2	67
Kuznetsova     	2	1	4	2	67
Clijsters      	2	1	4	3	57
Dementieva     	0	3	1	6	14
Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used
Sharapova and Kuznetsova advance
Sharapova is red #1, Kuznetsova red #2 because of the H2H


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-1
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-1

Code:
Name           	Match W	Match L	Set W	Set L 	%
Sharapova      	2	1	5	2	67
Clijsters      	2	1	4	3	57
Kuznetsova     	2	1	4	3	57
Dementieva     	0	3	1	6	14
Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used
Sharapova advances as Red #1, Kuznetsova and Clijsters are still tied
Clijsters advances as Red #2 because she won the H2H



AND I THINK THAT'S ALL. IF IT'S NOT, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT I'M MISSING


If anyone knows what happens in this situation:
3 way tie for 1st, so set % is used. 1 player gets 1st place, but the other 2 are stilll tied for 2nd. I think H2H would be used, but i'm not positive.

If you know for certain, tell me and i'll update this


If you see any mistakes, tell me and i'll fix it right away. But, i think it's all right

I used to list my favorite tennis players here...
...then they all retired.
I used to keep track of my rankings in fantasy games here...
...then I realized how much I suck.
I used to update this signature, once in a while...
...then I realized no one actually reads it.

Last edited by twight6; Nov 10th, 2006 at 05:12 PM.
twight6 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 26,158
                     
Re: Red Group scenarios

Quote:
Originally Posted by I<3Lindsay View Post
ISharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-1
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-1
Code:
Name               Match W    Match L    Set W    Set L    %
Sharapova          3    0    6    1    100
Clijsters          1    2    3    4    43
Kuznetsova         1    2    3    4    43
Dementieva         1    2    2    5    29
Sharapova advances as Red #1
Clijsters, Kuznetsova, and Dementieva all tied at 1-2.
Clijsters and Kuznetsova are tied in set %, so Dementieva is definately out. However, i'm not sure whether they use game % or H2H to break a tie...
If they use H2H: Clijsters advances
Game %: Clijsters is in the lead, but it could go either way i do believe.
Sorry, was just about about to answer your PM but I guess I can do it here too.

WTA hasn't stated what they would use in this case.
Since I'm pretty sure they use the same system as the ATP, H2H would be next so Kim would advance.
Even if it's games then Kim would most likely be ahead as long as she doesn't lose 0-6 7-6 0-6 and Sveta doesn't lose 6-7 6-0 6-7.
GoDominique is offline  
post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 2006, 05:10 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
twight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: home sweet home
Posts: 14,275
                     
Re: Red Group scenarios

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoDominique View Post
Sorry, was just about about to answer your PM but I guess I can do it here too.

WTA hasn't stated what they would use in this case.
Since I'm pretty sure they use the same system as the ATP, H2H would be next so Kim would advance.
Even if it's games then Kim would most likely be ahead as long as she doesn't lose 0-6 7-6 0-6 and Sveta doesn't lose 6-7 6-0 6-7.
okay, thanks

I used to list my favorite tennis players here...
...then they all retired.
I used to keep track of my rankings in fantasy games here...
...then I realized how much I suck.
I used to update this signature, once in a while...
...then I realized no one actually reads it.
twight6 is offline  
post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 6,969
                     
Re: Red Group scenarios

Thank you!!


Elleke is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome