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Should Mary Pierce Retire?

I think Mary Pierce's documented injuries throughout her career could easily turn into a case study. She is by far one of the hardest hitting pros from the last, and current generation.

She recently tore ligaments in her left knee and will be out for six months. At age 31, is it time for Mary to call it quits?
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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

UH - my feeling about this is pretty bad. But Mary is the one who just keeps on fighting and keeps on surprising us.

If the surgery is a success then she should definitely play.

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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

she should do whatever she wants to do. and right now, she doesnt want to retire.

for me, its simple
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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

Mary is in a tough position.
On one hand, she wants to keep playing once she gets this injury behind her, on the other there is her age and her always getting hurt.

My feeling is that Mary will have her surgery and do the rehabilitation and give all she can into a comeback. She's a tough cookie. Mary will know when it's time to walk away. Either way, I wish her the best and I hope we see her on tour again.

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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

No. She said shes not going to anytime soon. And this injury wont stop her. I think she woulds like to do it on her own terms.

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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

No - she can still fight on, ending her career like this wouldn't do her justice
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Should Mary Pierce Retire? = Should i kill myself?
If Mary is saying she doesn´t want to stop , so i have to agree with her.
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When Mary retires, unlike many retired good players before her, it won't be because she hasn't got the game to challenge for major titles anymore.

To me there are very few players like her that have retained the ability on a good day to crush even the best of best late into their careers.

Not really answering the question I know but I think my sentiments have already been expressed by someone else above.
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Even if she retires I think she'll do a Martina (either one) and make a comeback a few years later

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Even if she retires I think she'll do a Martina (either one) and make a comeback a few years later
Mary is 31, not 22.
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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

Yeah, fair point - but Mary won't retire yet, is my gut feeling, unless the injury is really serious. She's old for a tennis player, yep, but if she's back strong aged 32 and a bit no reason why she shouldn't play for a few more years.

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When Mary retires, unlike many retired good players before her, it won't be because she hasn't got the game to challenge for major titles anymore.

To me there are very few players like her that have retained the ability on a good day to crush even the best of best late into their careers.

Not really answering the question I know but I think my sentiments have already been expressed by someone else above.
I guess I'm reminded of Steffi Graf in this instance. For years she battled a bad back, then her knee problem began in '97 which kept her away for almost a year and a half. '98 was a medicore year for Graf, no where near her prior form.

Then, in '99, hope sprung eternal. At age 30, Graf reclaimed her game and rose to #3 in the rankings. She won the French Open, then after Wimbledon and before the US Open, she called it quits. The prospect of lifelong physical impairment was simply too much to bear, in spite of her stellar play, and ability to still beat the best in the world.

I feel Graf's '99 was Mary's '05. They both battled back from lingering injuries to reclaim their spot as one of the best in the world at age 30. Like Graf, I feel Mary should have stopped while she had regained her championship form and could still walk.

However, this isn't the case with Mary. She obviously wants more.

Realistically, there's no guarantee that Mary will ever return to her '05 form after this latest injury time-out. A time-out which will require knee surgery and six-months rehabilitation. Even Graf knew when it was time to throw in the towel.

I really feel like we've seen the best of Mary Pierce.

As fans, are we being selfish in our attempts to hope players with chronic injuries return....just one more time in the twilight of their careers?

Mary Pierce is THE inaugural injured poster-child of modern power tennis in the WTA. A woman who pushed her body beyond its limits with punishing ground strokes. I see glimpses of Mary Pierce's injury-prone career in this generations top power players; Kim Clijsters, Justine Henin-Hardenne, Serena Williams, Lindsay Davenport and Venus Williams.

Why couldn't they learn from Mary?

And now, we have another younger generation approaching, hitting blazing groundstrokes. Will Maria Sharapova and Nicole Vaidisova learn from their predecessors mistakes??? Or will modern power tennis continue to eat its young???

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Mary is 31, not 22.
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Re: Should Mary Pierce Retire?

No, I don't think she should retire yet, she still has many things that she wants do, like play the 2008 Olympics, and win Wimbledon, although both do appear unlikely. Btw, this is my first post here, hi everyone.
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I guess I'm reminded of Steffi Graf in this instance. For years she battled a bad back, then her knee problem began in '97 which kept her away for almost a year and a half. '98 was a medicore year for Graf, no where near her prior form.

Then, in '99, hope sprung eternal. At age 30, Graf reclaimed her game and rose to #3 in the rankings. She won the French Open, then after Wimbledon and before the US Open, she called it quits. The prospect of lifelong physical impairment was simply too much to bear, in spite of her stellar play, and ability to still beat the best in the world.

I feel Graf's '99 was Mary's '05. They both battled back from lingering injuries to reclaim their spot as one of the best in the world at age 30. Like Graf, I feel Mary should have stopped while she had regained her championship form and could still walk.

However, this isn't the case with Mary. She obviously wants more.

Realistically, there's no guarantee that Mary will ever return to her '05 form after this latest injury time-out. A time-out which will require knee surgery and six-months rehabilitation. Even Graf knew when it was time to throw in the towel.

I really feel like we've seen the best of Mary Pierce.

As fans, are we being selfish in our attempts to hope players with chronic injuries return....just one more time in the twilight of their careers?

Mary Pierce is THE inaugural injured poster-child of modern power tennis in the WTA. A woman who pushed her body beyond its limits with punishing ground strokes. I see glimpses of Mary Pierce's injury-prone career in this generations top power players; Kim Clijsters, Justine Henin-Hardenne, Serena Williams, Lindsay Davenport and Venus Williams.

Why couldn't they learn from Mary?

And now, we have another younger generation approaching, hitting blazing groundstrokes. Will Maria Sharapova and Nicole Vaidisova learn from their predecessors mistakes??? Or will modern power tennis continue to eat its young???
I have to admit I don't see as much in the Steffi - Mary comparison as you do. In my mind, Steffi's million injuries rarely kept her away from top flight tennis for long - aside from when she had that operation after the French open in 1997.

Mary's injuries have taken her tennis down several notches several times. In between her Oz open win and her 2000 clay season win there wasn't much to write home about aside from an Oz open final that she lost tamely. Much the same between 2000 and last year. Not to say she wasn't playing or playing well but she definitely took time to build up to her best, unlike Steffi who could return and win tournaments like she'd never left.

I guess the point I'm making is that counting Mary Pierce out after a long period of absence is something I've done several times before and been wrong about. We may well have seen the best of her as you say but on her past record she's proven that she is willing to take the knockdowns that the comeback trail brings with it to claw her way back. So if anyone has the will to do it, she has ... perhaps even more than Steffi did.

As for the younger generation learning from her, well I think they all have too much pride, too little commitment and are too self involved in their own interests to apply themselves enough if they got into that situation - with the exception maybe of Lindsay Davenport but then I consider her more of Mary's generation anyway.
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