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Does anybody see Kuznetsova-Sharapova developing into a rivalry?

I do.

There's only 2 years between them, as there was with Evert and Navratilova (not that I'm suggesting any rivalry with be as enduring as theirs).

I think they are both very well matched up. Maria's the cleaner hitter and mentally the more tenacious, but Kuznetsova is by far the greater athlete with the physical strength to muscle back Sharapova's shots and the stamina to outlast her. Both have great serves, but Svetlana has more variety. Having said that, Sveta is also far more erratic.

They go back as far as Wimbledon 2003, when Kuznetsova won a close encounter. Then they played at the Australian Open of 2005, Sharapova emerging the winner of a three-setter on sheer grit and determination after Kuznetsova had blown her lead. And then, this year in Miami Svetlana emerged the winner.

They've played very seldom over the last 3-4 years, but I think that bodes well for their future encounters. I personally don't feel Kuznetsova is anywhere near her peak. She still has to discover her 'a' game and learn to schedule herself better. Her attitude and focus on court also leaves a lot to be desired at the moment. But she's one of the most committed and intense athletes off the court, of all the elite players. Maria is much more the finished article, more glamourous, mentally the stronger. Both will be at the top of the game for most of the next decade barring injuries or tragedies.

I think we will see some great matches from these two.
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yeah i reckon these two can develop a rivalry, but u must remember that a rivarly can't be one-sided like for instance

ie. amelie vs serena (serena leads 10-2 in H2H). an example of an active rivalry would be kim vs justine (tied at 10-10 in H2H Tour meetings not ITF meetings). so the way things r going between maria & sveta in H2H battles looks bright 4 the future if they can keep it up mentally & physically.
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Serena/Masha is better in terms of Marquee value, but Masha is waiting for Ree to back to form. For now, this will do.

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Serena/Masha is better in terms of Marquee value.
Im agree with you, unfortunately to almost nobody matters for kuzzie apart from the fans
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she matters, she's just not a marquee personality. She's more introverted a la Sampras, and there's nothing wrong with that

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and the stamina to outlast her.
Unless Kuznetzova hits the gym and gets herself in much better shape, she isn't going to outlast anybody. The '05 Aussie Open QF is a perfect example of that.

About the only advantage I can see that Kuznetzova has over Maria is physical strength. She isn't nearly as tough mentally, isn't nearly as consistent with her shotmaking, and doesn't possess as good a serve. Not to mention that Maria is better conditioned.

That said, when Maria is off her game, Kuznetsova has a chance against her. But I don't see this as a major enduring "rivalry". Sharapova-Henin is more likely to be the one that develops into the biggest in the game.
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I see maria with a venus type of success and kuzy a serena type. Even their body make up are similar.

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Good points Steffica Greles. If I had to pick a rivalry in women's tennis in the future, I think that one would be it.
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Unless Kuznetzova hits the gym and gets herself in much better shape, she isn't going to outlast anybody. The '05 Aussie Open QF is a perfect example of that.



shows how much you know about Svetlana to talk with such authoority. She is known for having a very high work ethic and hits the gym every day even when during the tournament. She does it even when her coaches don't want her to. The issue with her (to be feared) is that she overtrains.

I do really think it might be a great rivalry with Svetlana being a player who Maria will fear.

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Unless Kuznetzova hits the gym and gets herself in much better shape, she isn't going to outlast anybody. The '05 Aussie Open QF is a perfect example of that.

About the only advantage I can see that Kuznetzova has over Maria is physical strength. She isn't nearly as tough mentally, isn't nearly as consistent with her shotmaking, and doesn't possess as good a serve. Not to mention that Maria is better conditioned.

That said, when Maria is off her game, Kuznetsova has a chance against her. But I don't see this as a major enduring "rivalry". Sharapova-Henin is more likely to be the one that develops into the biggest in the game.
Ignorant post. I guess somehow despite her lack of fitness Sveta is 19-5 in 3 set matches this year. Amazing. She must do it with voodoo.
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Kuznetsova's too erratic, and one can never develop what Maria has (clean timing, mental fortitude,) whereas Maria has already developed what Sveta has (strength and conditioning.)

The rivalry of the future will be Sharapova vs. Vaidisova vs. Ivanovic vs. Golovin.

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I too, think they will have a great rivalry. But Sveta is not the only one who has not reached her peak yet. Past injuries have slowed down her progress but otherwise Maria is constantly improving. She will continue to do so because she is so determined to get better and beat the best players consistently.

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I do think they could develop a good rivalry as they're both still young and probably will still hang around when the generation above them have retired.

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