If Justine or Maria wins the YEC, will you change your mind on "Player of the Year"? - TennisForum.com
View Poll Results: Will you change your mind?
Yeah, guess I will... no regrets about it... 16 17.20%
Nope, Amelie's still the Player of the Year... 26 27.96%
I've already picked Justine / Maria as my Player of The Year... 45 48.39%
Who bloody cares? I just want to know who wins the YEC!!! 6 6.45%
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If Justine or Maria wins the YEC, will you change your mind on "Player of the Year"?

Will you still think Amelie is the Player of the Year, or change your mind?

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post #2 of 58 (permalink) Old Oct 23rd, 2006, 05:56 PM
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playing all 4 the slam finals is already enough for winning that title , even if maria wins the masters , it won't change my mind
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Well, Justine is the player of the year without a doubt.
If Masha wins YEC she'll be 2nd on my list ex aequo with Momo

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If Justine won the YEC, I think I would give her the nod for Player of the Year.
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for me amèlie is still the player of the year

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Anyone that makes it to all four finals of the majors, winning the FO, and the YEC, with the best winning percentage in the WTA, best winning percentage in the Grand Slam tournaments deserves Player of The Year.
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No.

2 Slams > 1 GS + YEC + 3 Tier 1s

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2 Slams > 1 GS + YEC + 3 GS Finals

Slams are what matter most people.
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Since when is the YEC weighted more than a slam?
Maria isn't in the running, either.
JHH would be close but not close enough IMO.
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Slams matter most, but one has to take into consideration a player's acheivements outside the slams. I think it's a pathetic argument to say that a player who wins 2 slams are better than a player who wins 1, when the player with two slams has done marginally worse than the players with 1. I'm sorry, but if you reach 4 slam finals, and win the YEC, and you have a slam, then you have a pretty damn good case for the number 1 ranking. Bottomline, winning a slam means that you were the best for two weeks. The number 1 ranking reflects who is the best within the last 52 weeks, and if you only look at slams, then the rankings will merely reflect 8 weeks of the 52 weeks. One has to take into consideration, and strongly, a player's acheivements outside slams. That's why there are tiers. Of course slams matter most, but not so much more as to say that a two slam winners with no other significant acheivement is so much better than a one slam winner with many other significant acheivements.

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And if slams are all that matter, than is Sanchez Vicario a better player and ranked highter in the list of all time greats than Davenport?

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And if slams are all that matter, than is Sanchez Vicario a better player and ranked highter in the list of all time greats than Davenport?
good question

Justine won RG, was the finalist in the 3 other GS, so if she wins YEC, then she'll be the ultimate n1 in the rankings.

Maria has done a lot in GS and outside the GS, so if she wins YEC then she'll be tied with Momo on the second place.

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You have to take into consideration the achievements in all the tournaments throughout the year and not just the slams. I would think Justine, Amelie and Maria are all pretty close in that respect. I would settle for the winner of YEC (out of the top 3, and hopefully all fully fit) to be player of the year.
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I think ultimately it is between Momo and Justine. Mauresmo with two GS, Justine with 1 GS + 3 Finals.
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It depends of their performance in this Tournament. We'll know it very soon !
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