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Pease explain the difference between Rebound ace, hardcourt and carpet

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This subject keeps on "popping up" in different threads and since a lot of people seem to want to know about this: this thread

Could some people who actually KNOWS (because they e.g. have played on it)
explain the exact difference between those 3 surfaces?
Also,
Are all tournies in Australia played on Rebound ace?
Is "indoor" always = "carpet"?
Is "UShardcourt" all the same type of hardcourt?
Can you have indoor rebound ace?


I really wonder and would like for someone to explain. Thx in advance!!

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Of course Rebound Ace has indoors, mind you that the Rod Laver arena at AO has retractable roof which makes it an indoor court.
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The 1988 AO Final between Chris Evert and Steffi Graf was the first time in tennis history that a Grand Slam final had been played both indoor and outdoor. They closed the retractable roof because of rain.
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Rebound Ace - A synthetic, rubberized hard court. The court surface encourages a high ball bounce and is considered a 'slower' hard court surface.

Hard Court - Concrete or Asphalt or in the case of professional tournaments - 'Deco-Turf' also a regular hard surface similar to concrete. A fast surface with a true bounce.

Indoor Carpet - a very thin carpet layer over a hard, concrete surface. Faster than a hard court with a low bounce.

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Rebound Ace is also slower but its speed is rather temperature dependent. During the AO, commentators have expressed the fact that because the night temperature is lower, balls tends to be faster because rubber is harder as temperature lowers. So HC players may perform a little better during night matches. Also, ball bounces on rubber court tends to be a little higher due to the elasticity of the material, and its bounce also affected by temperature. During this year's AO match between Mauresmo and Vaidasova, Brad Gilbert suggested this spin theory where Momo often hits high bouncing top-spin shots to throw off Nicole. Whereas hard court and carpet are faster, however, playing hard court is very hard on the body as there is no cushioning on foot landing. If you look at clay, grass, carpet, and rubber, they all provide at least some degree of cushioning.
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During the US Open series I heard the commentators say that the hard court surfaces aren't consistant. Like I think the US Open is a bit faster than most of the courts during the US Open series.

Indoor is not always carpet. The club that I play at has regular hard courts, just under a roof. The "carpet" used on tour is obviously not actual carpet (although I have played on a carpet court ). I'm not sure what its made of, but when you bounce the ball, it sounds kind of hollow underneath.
I've played on rebound ace and hard court, so here are the differences:

Rebound Ace is really rubbery and absorbs quite a bit of power. But because it's so rubbery the bounce is higher than regular hard court

I've never played on indoor carpet, but I assume it is like indoor hard court. The only reason its fast is because its indoors, where conditions are perfect and the place is enclosed, making the ball faster.

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During the US Open series I heard the commentators say that the hard court surfaces aren't consistant. Like I think the US Open is a bit faster than most of the courts during the US Open series.

Indoor is not always carpet. The club that I play at has regular hard courts, just under a roof. The "carpet" used on tour is obviously not actual carpet (although I have played on a carpet court ). I'm not sure what its made of, but when you bounce the ball, it sounds kind of hollow underneath.
I've played on rebound ace and hard court, so here are the differences:

Rebound Ace is really rubbery and absorbs quite a bit of power. But because it's so rubbery the bounce is higher than regular hard court

I've never played on indoor carpet, but I assume it is like indoor hard court. The only reason its fast is because its indoors, where conditions are perfect and the place is enclosed, making the ball faster.
It has to do with the roughness of the court surface (or more scientifically speaking the coefficient of friction). The rougher the court, obviously the slower the ball travels after contact.
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answered very nicely.
should explain a bit why me and marjorie are quarrling

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I've never played on indoor carpet, but I assume it is like indoor hard court. The only reason its fast is because its indoors, where conditions are perfect and the place is enclosed, making the ball faster.
I play on indoor carpet every winter and its really fast, so I don't think it's just fast because it's indoors. It would be very fast outdoors, too.
I think it's something between Hardcourt and Grasscourts in case of speed.
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I play on indoor carpet every winter and its really fast, so I don't think it's just fast because it's indoors. It would be very fast outdoors, too.
I think it's something between Hardcourt and Grasscourts in case of speed.

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Lleyton Hewitt could tell you exactly what he thinks of Rebound Ace.
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Lleyton Hewitt could tell you exactly what he thinks of Rebound Ace.
lol, I'm too scared to ask him...

Thx everyone for trying to explain.
So is hardcourt really like "cement" sometimes, but just painted? Tht sounds so... I dunno unprofessional

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lol, I'm too scared to ask him...

Thx everyone for trying to explain.
So is hardcourt really like "cement" sometimes, but just painted? Tht sounds so... I dunno unprofessional
One of the high schools I play at is LITERALLY a parking lot section fenced off with lines painted on.
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By the way, both Tokyo Pan Pacific and Moscow are played on carpet correct?

Tokyo has practically the FASTEST surface on the entire schedule, but Moscow seems to be one of the slowest outside the clay court season
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