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Monica Seles just before she got stabbed was in the same situation as...

... Roger Federer right now.

But with one less grand slam title. But Monica at that time was 19 and Roger is 24(?).

So anyway,

At that time Monica had the last 3 consecutive Australian Opens and French Opens.

Roger now has the last 4 consecutive Wimbledons and 3 consecutive US Opens.

Monica had also won 2 other US Opens.

Roger has won 2 other Australian Opens.

Monica hadn't won Wimbledon but she was a finalist the last time.

Roger hasn't won French Open but he is a reigning finalist.

Monica had won 8 out of the last 12 grand slams at that point. (66%)

Roger has won 9 out of the last 14 grand slams right now. (62%)

Monica's only rival during that time was Graf who won 2 Wimbledons but was 4 years older than her.

Roger's only rival right now is Nadal who won 2 French Opens and is 5 years younger than him.

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If Roger becomes the greatest player ever surpassing Sampras, who's to say that Monica who had dominated just like him would not have? Monica was in a better position than Roger right now because her chief rival was older and Monica was only a teenager. Whereas, there's a possibility that Nadal could improve overtake Roger.

I think this is proof that Monica was the greatest player ever at that point in women's tennis.

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I agree completely, and there's no doubt she would've won more slams than Steffi.

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I agree completely, and there's no doubt she would've won more slams than Steffi.
We're not talking about Steffi. This isn't Steffi vs. Monica. I'm making a pure statistical comparison between what was and what's happening right now.

Barring injury or stabbings, nothing would've stopped her.

She and Roger are the two greatest players ever.

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Why did this man stabbed Monica in the back in germany (?) during a tournament?

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Why did this man stabbed Monica in the back in germany (?) during a tournament?

He was a crazy Steffi Graf fan who wanted her to get back to #1, and, well...

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Why did this man stabbed Monica in the back in germany (?) during a tournament?
because he was a crazy, hardcore Graf fan. I think he should have gotten harsher punishment for what he did.
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post #7 of 97 (permalink) Old Oct 3rd, 2006, 03:55 AM
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here's monica talking about the insident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZhUjASt-I

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It seems like a long time ago, I am trying to remember!

Roger is just soo much better than the others, he is on a different planet to the likes of Roddick, Hewitt. Fair play to Nadal in working hard on his game away from clay and staying with him. Was Monica that much better than all of the others back then?
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You Seles fanatics need to MOVE ON. IT'S BEEN 13 FREAKING YEARS!
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You Seles fanatics need to MOVE ON. IT'S BEEN 13 FREAKING YEARS!
Shhhhhhhh...let them blow......its been a while and they need to get it out of their system.
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It seems like a long time ago, I am trying to remember!

Roger is just soo much better than the others, he is on a different planet to the likes of Roddick, Hewitt. Fair play to Nadal in working hard on his game away from clay and staying with him. Was Monica that much better than all of the others back then?
THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT.

I've given you the stats, the comparison, now you think for yourselves.

Everyone acts like Roger is the second coming of Christ. Well Monica did the same things just before she got stabbed.

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You're right - Its terrible that had to happen - he certainly changed the course of history - Monica would at least have 18 singles grand slams if that wouldn't have happened in my opinion.



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THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT.

I've given you the stats, the comparison, now you think for yourselves.

Everyone acts like Roger is the second coming of Christ. Well Monica did the same things just before she got stabbed.
Not saying Roger is the holy one at all, put the stats to one side for a moment and observe. I have never seen anyone so superior in every deparment to his contemporaries as Roger is at the moment. I think that has a lot to do with his image problem in the states, they just don't see the guy having to scratch, fight and occasionally get down and get dirty to win title after title, he is just too damn good. Was it the same for Monica?
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Let the past be. Monica doesn't dwell on it, so I don't see why some of her fans have to.

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Not saying Roger is the holy one at all, put the stats to one side for a moment and observe. I have never seen anyone so superior in every deparment to his contemporaries as Roger is at the moment. I think that has a lot to do with his image problem in the states, they just don't see the guy having to scratch, fight and occasionally get down and get dirty to win title after title, he is just too damn good. Was it the same for Monica?
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