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Why does Marat Safin continually come up small in the big matches?

He did it again today against Ferrero. Safin has developed the pattern of going deep into a grand slam, and then coming up small in the big matches. And that's a sin for someone of his size and ability!

Last year at Wimbledon, he could have beaten Goran in the quarters. But he lost a close one. Then in the U. S. Open, Safin made the semi's, where he came up small against Sampras in defense of his title.

Then this year at the 2002 Australian open, he reaches the final, but plays a dud of a match against Thomas Johansson. Now at the French, he does well to get to the semi's. But then gets routined by Ferrero. Why is this happening to Marat?

Continuously coming up small in the big matches should not be a problem for Safin. Especially after winning the 2000 U.S. Open. That should have given him the confidence to win some of these matches. Asking him to win all of these matches is wrong. But he needs to win some of them, otherwise he will be a one slam wonder!

I think part of the problem is coaching. When Marat was working with Russian's Andrei Chesnokov and Andrei Volkov in 2000, he played his best tennis. Without a Russian coaching him, Marat's results have been mediocre and underacheiving! That cannot be denied. I hope he see's the light and hires a Russian coach he can relate to. Something is missing from Safin's game. The question is, what is missing? Something is missing. And I hope Marat finds out what it is so he can do something about it.

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I felt so bad for him today... It's like he gave up from the start


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First i dont think he'll be a one slam wonder. Im not just saying that cause im a fan but he's simply too talented to never win a slam again.

Second you could be right about the coaching. He needs someone around him who is able to give him some stability. Changing coaches like Marat does is quite disturbing and i dont think its doing him any good. Whether it should be a Russian or not...i dont think that matters much. As long as its someone who can teach him to channel his anger and frustration and make him use it in a positive way.

I didnt see the Aus open final (cause i stopped watching when he started to lose lol), but he didnt just hand the match over to Ferrero today. He was simply outplayed by a better player.

He will win a slam again im sure of that

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Nah Eggy, he wanted to come home and be with me on my bday

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hehe Angelica, now that would be one heck of a b-day present!
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My opinion - he just doesn't seem to want it bad enough.
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To elaborate on that - every single time I read interviews from Ferrero or articles about him - it always comes down to that he wants to win Roland Garros - its all he bloody talks about in those things

I dont see that with Safin.
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post #10 of 23 (permalink) Old Jun 7th, 2002, 09:50 PM
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I just think he dosent like to work for it enough.

Hewitt would run down every single ball even if Maurice Greene wouldnt reach it just to compete for everything. Marat just think 'fuck it' i'll get the next point.

Which is fine against most oppanents in most matches. Its not in a Grandslam though.
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I think it's his temper. I mean in Australia he had his chances, but the moment he even gets a little down in a match, off he goes. He even gets mad when he looses like one point.

I admit his emotions are what makes him appealing to watch, but he needs to tone it down. Look how well he's doing at the slams on a consisten basis. Very few of the top players do so well at all three. But he has to work on his temper, and mental game.

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He's got tons of talent. He's fit as can be.

The problem is all in his head. He gets down on himself too often then his temper gets the best of him.

Maybe he can't handle success yet. It may be a case of too much success too soon. He won the U.S. Open then became #1 and also had 2 Master Series titles (Toronto and Paris), all in a span of 4 months. Then when he started losing he really started losing his confidence.

His downfall began when all he had to do was win 1 more match at the Masters Cup and he would have finished 2000 at #1, but he didn't. I truly believed that if he had done that then he would not have gotten into that horrible slump that killed his confidence.

Well, it seems like he's finding his game again this year and this time it's going to stay with him for good. He's going to do well on the hardcourts and at the U.S. Open.

Today he lost to Juan Carlos Ferrero probably because Ferrero wanted it more than him. Ferrero knows this is a very good opportunity (that should not be wasted) for himself to win the whole thing (French Open) with Kuerten out.

I don't see Safin finishing the year lower than #3.

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You can be playing great and still run into a player who is playing even better. Ferrero is just a better player on clay. He is more of a natural and really the choice going into the Open. Marat has nothing to be ashamed of. Some days you're on and some days you're not. You can play perfectly or very well and then have a let down. It can be an emotional, mental, physical, serving, returning, running, foot work, forehand, backhand or whateverlet down. Ever player has it. Some days you can still manage to win and some days you don't. Serena had a generally terrible day (compared to her other matches), yet still ended the match in style with a win. Some days that happens many days it does not.

I get tired of people dogging Marat. He has a different personality. So! I'm just still waiting for him to run around the court naked like he said he would if he won the US Open in 2000. When is he going to keep his word?
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i don't agree with your title Cat. Marat has gotten it up for some big matches, e.g., his 2000 USO spanking of Sampras.

however, i didn't agree with the accolades he got after beating Grosjean at RG 2002. i felt that it was a labored, boring match and i could tell that he wasn't on his game. and when Marat is mentally distracted he does not perform well, so honestly i wasn't surprised by today's outcome. i hope he manages to get it together by Wimby. i'd like to see him spank Shamprass again

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He lacks the fight of a Lleyton Hewitt or a Jennifer Capriati... he gives up in points, doesn't like to run for everything...

He has huge mental lapses like Venus and he is negative on court, like Lindsay.

In a slam, you cannot afford that against great opponents who are hungry, who want to win, or you'll be out in no time.

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