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Honestly? Who is the most complete player?

I'm not asking asking who is the best player out there, rather I'm asking who has all these skills to be the best???

Power
Placement
Volley
Movement/Footwork
Serve
Spins/Slices


I think its gonna be Amelie Mauresmo. This girl just does'nt know how to put them all together and I hope winning 2 slams recently would make her realize that. One more player that comes to mind at her peak is Liza Raymond.

I would love to say Hingis but she lacks power.

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I also think it is Amelie Mauresmo.

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Please, I want replies to be well supported.

Lindsay is my fave but I know for a fact that she is not a good mover on court but the best ball striker IMO.

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I would go with Amelie too, Amelie and Justine


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Justine also lacks power I think

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amélie ... she's an incredible athlete

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Judging by those categories, I'd go with Amelie. Her forehand isn't quite the liability on a consistent basis that it used to be & none of those categories really address it.

Also, Sveta. Although sometimes her head makes her "overextend" her talent . But she's got power, placement, good volleys, solid movement, an underrated serve, & tons of top and a nice slice.

If you're going by peak form, Serena of course has to be brought up. Her slice is underrated, and that's the only category I think that could be debated about her.

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I would go with Amelie too, Amelie and Justine
Justine is a complete player, yes! but why is she effective only on slow courts? She can still be over powered thats the reason. I would put Venus rather next to amelie only Venus tends to use her power everytime and not rely on her techniques. You would notice it by Venus always using a swinging power volley instead of a well placed volley.

But as I have said before, I really think Liza Raymond also has it, though she has no singles results to back it up with.

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Judging by those categories, I'd go with Amelie. Her forehand isn't quite the liability on a consistent basis that it used to be & none of those categories really address it.

Also, Sveta. Although sometimes her head makes her "overextend" her talent . But she's got power, placement, good volleys, solid movement, an underrated serve, & tons of top and a nice slice.

If you're going by peak form, Serena of course has to be brought up. Her slice is underrated, and that's the only category I think that could be debated about her.
Serena is like Lindsay( serve and strokes) with a movement, but I would put Lindsay to have a better net game than serena.

Serena lacks net game
Lindsay lacks movement

In my opinion its gonna be:

1.Amelie

2. Liza Raymond

3. Venus

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When I think of complete games I always think of Serena.

Although she's not the greatest volleyer I'll concede.
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Serena is like Lindsay( serve and strokes) with a movement, but I would put Lindsay to have a better net game than serena.

Serena lacks net game
Lindsay lacks movement
Sometimes she gets lazy @ net, but her net game>Lindsay's movement IMO. Serena has good drive volleys, and is certainly no slouch @ the net. And Serena can come up with some ridiculous reach volleys when the time calls for it. Her backhand volley used to be very good too, with surprisingly good technique.

About Lisa, I haven't seen singles matches of her @ her peak, but was she ever the fleetest of foot? She has solid footwork, but I don't know about foot speed. I obviously could be very wrong .

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I am thinking about Serena Williams here. Think about her at her peak in 2002.

She had so many levels that she could go to. I know she really relied a lot on Serve and on Power but she still had a great volley (both the Swinging Volley and the Classic).

My tickmark list for Serena

xxxx Power
xx Placement
xx Volley
xxx Movement/Footwork
xxxx Serve
x Spins/Slices

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Sometimes she gets lazy @ net, but her net game>Lindsay's movement. Serena has very good drive volleys, and is certainly no slouch @ the net. And Serena can come up with some ridiculous reach volleys when the time calls for it. Her backhand volley used to be very good too, with surprisingly good technique.

About Lisa, I haven't seen singles matches of her @ her peak, but was she ever the fleetest of foot? She has solid footwork, but I don't know about foot speed. I obviously could be very wrong .
Same thing with Lindsay, she lacks speed by a mile but her footwork is superb and that where her ball striking ability is comming from, right balance and footwork. Plus, even if she is slow, her court coverage is not a slouch either considering her height and reach.

Going back to the subject, I would really not put Serena and Lindsay as a complete player compare to others.

As for Lisa Raymond, she has a superb serve, superb volleys, super slices, superb placement, superb footwork and its still a complete puzzle why she did'nt made it big time in singles.

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I am thinking about Serena Williams here. Think about her at her peak in 2002.

She had so many levels that she could go to. I know she really relied a lot on Serve and on Power but she still had a great volley (both the Swinging Volley and the Classic).

My tickmark list for Serena

xxxx Power
xx Placement
xx Volley
xxx Movement/Footwork
xxxx Serve
x Spins/Slices
I agree with your trickmark for Serena

But come to think of it, can you come up with a trick mark for Amelie Mauresmo lower than those? maybe on power only.

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