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Venus & Serena playing eachother = COLLUSION?

Does anyone else think that when Venus & Serena play eachother that they decide the winner and number of sets won prior to playing?

Maybe it's the skeptic in me, but it just seems sometimes that they are playing badly on purpose.

Serena starts throwing in creampuff second serves, Venus goes for outright winners when they are simply not there. Also their screams are rediculous. It all seems contrived to me. I am a huge Williams fan but I just don't buy it.

Right now I am watching their R16 match from the US open last year and it's just BAD. It just looks like they are putting on a show.

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Maybe it's the skeptic in me, but it just seems sometimes that they are playing badly on purpose.
What would they gain from playing badly on purpose? If the matches were fixed, don't you think they would always be atleast three sets, not to mention better quality since they would have decided where the other was going to hit and who was going to win the point. I think if anything, some people are mad they don't fake their matches and make them all three setters full of great points the whole way through.

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no i dont think that at all

i think that its just a different kind of pressure when you're playing someone so close to you. it becomes a whole different ball game (literally)

it must just be weird and bring out the worst in them
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Does anyone else think that when Venus & Serena play eachother that they decide the winner and number of sets won prior to playing?

Maybe it's the skeptic in me, but it just seems sometimes that they are playing badly on purpose.

Serena starts throwing in creampuff second serves, Venus goes for outright winners when they are simply not there. Also their screams are rediculous. It all seems contrived to me. I am a huge Williams fan but I just don't buy it.

Right now I am watching their R16 match from the US open last year and it's just BAD. It just looks like they are putting on a show.
what are you trying to start here??? That's so stupid. Their both fighters and want to win. Have you ever watched most of their matches vs. eachother? They both want to win so bad, and are upset when the lose.
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OMG are we back to that bullshit again???

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real Willy fan? I think not


if you really watched you would see how emotional they get. I remember seeing the AO 03 final and Venus giving a way a set point and she chunked her racket. She was pissed! and Serena got mad all the time when she lost to Venus. So the answer is No

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WELL - I didn't mean to start anything here.

The last couple of matches I saw, Serena played so badly that I couldn't help but think it.

I have refrained from starting a thread for a long time because I knew that this would be the response I would get but I genuinely wanted to know if anyone else ever thought this.

Guess Not!

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One of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen was Venus vs. Serena in Maimi in '05 (if memory serves me). It was great tennis, highly competitive and an emotional rollercoaster.
I think the suggestion that either one of them would tank it in a match is ridiculous. They're both way to competitive. Once either one is on-court, it's go time.
Maybe it's just the skeptic in me, but I highly doubt that "a huge Williams fan" would suggest such a thing.

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I think that they are to competitive.
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I thought we disposed with these lines of questions YEARS ago. Goodness

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when Serena is backed into a corner and looking to bust out.
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One of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen was Venus vs. Serena in Maimi in '05 (if memory serves me). It was great tennis, highly competitive and an emotional rollercoaster.
I think the suggestion that either one of them would tank it in a match is ridiculous. They're both way to competitive. Once either one is on-court, it's go time.
Maybe it's just the skeptic in me, but I highly doubt that "a huge Williams fan" would suggest such a thing.

Well - just because I am a huge Williams fan doesn't mean I think they could DO NO WRONG. They are human after all, and they are in a very unique family situation. Maybe they thought their H2H was making Venus look bad.

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*too competitive to let one win
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I am sure this thread is going to earn me some badrep. But this IS A TENNIS FORUM and it crossed my mind and wanted to know if anyone else thought it too. That's all. After all, I think famliy reputation is important to both sisters and I think a reputation of both players being equal would be better for the family.

Also, I started watching tennis in '03. I think long after the original accusations of collusion. I didn't realize the wounds were so fresh. People are very angry about this topic. I was honestly only asking if anyone else thought it too.

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