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Wimbledon equal pay - Rennae Stubbs speaking on Daily Politics

Just a post to see if anyone saw Rennae Stubbs speaking on The Daily politics on bbc2 just before the wimbledon coverage began.
She made some great points about equal pay for the women, and got a dig in at Andy Murray saying he will probably regret saying that the 'women don't work as hard as men'. I didn't realise Andy said this but go Rennae! , What do you guys think about the equal pay?
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Just a post to see if anyone saw Rennae Stubbs speaking on The Daily politics on bbc2 just before the wimbledon coverage began.
She made some great points about equal pay for the women, and got a dig in at Andy Murray saying he will probably regret saying that the 'women don't work as hard as men'. I didn't realise Andy said this but go Rennae! , What do you guys think about the equal pay?
what points did she make?
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Andy's mother pretty much said the same thing when she commentated on the Justine vs Myskina final


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yae man...totally for the equal pay....cant help it that womens tennis is 3 sets...so wimby organizers better get theira act straight soon cuz its only gonna get worse for em.

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The earn enuff for hitting a bloody ball - greedy greedy springs to mind

Wonder how many would boycott it if they feel so strongly about it ???????

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Here's something I pointed out about equal pay before. Wimbledon is able to charge more for the men's final and semis than the ladies final and semis, adding up to a difference of 193250 euros.

If the men are earning the tournament more money, don't they deserve more?

I'm all for equal pay. As long as it's equal all over, not just in the amount of money going into a player's pocket.

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If a woman does my job, she should receive the same pay as me. But if I work 8 hours and she works 6, why should we get the same reward?

ALL best-of-three set tournaments should pay men and women the same as a matter of principle. In this case, I really dont understand the fuss.

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If a woman does my job, she should receive the same pay as me. But if I work 8 hours and she works 6, why should we get the same reward?
Because a woman can't work 8 hours?




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If a woman does my job, she should receive the same pay as me. But if I work 8 hours and she works 6, why should we get the same reward?

ALL best-of-three set tournaments should pay men and women the same as a matter of principle. In this case, I really dont understand the fuss.
what would you say then about venus' point that the wimbledon's women's final last year lasted 45 minutes more than the men's final?

she didn't get any extra pay for that... she actually got payed less!
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But "working" for a professional tennis player is not only the length of a match... it's training everyday, year after year, hiring a coach, traveling, etc. The difference of one set during the "show" is just a little part of a whole. And I think that the personal investment men and women do in their sport can be quite similar. I would even say that women are sacrificing the years when they would be biologically the most capable to have a child.
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If a woman does my job, she should receive the same pay as me. But if I work 8 hours and she works 6, why should we get the same reward?

ALL best-of-three set tournaments should pay men and women the same as a matter of principle. In this case, I really dont understand the fuss.
So should a man who is on the court for say 2.5 hours earn as much as a man on court for 5 hours?

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what would you say then about venus' point that the wimbledon's women's final last year lasted 45 minutes more than the men's final?

she didn't get any extra pay for that... she actually got payed less!
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what would you say then about venus' point that the wimbledon's women's final last year lasted 45 minutes more than the men's final?

she didn't get any extra pay for that... she actually got payed less!
Yes, obviously there will be exceptions, but Venus had to play a maximum of 18 sets to reach the final (in reality it would have been 13 or 14), the men would have had to be prepared to play a minimum of 18 sets to get to the same stage.

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at this point, I would think it would more about the entertainment value of the tennis, as opposed to its length, or who is putting butts in the seats, so to speak. If the women are drawing just as big crowds as the men, the by all means pay them the same. The money shouldn’t just be about the quantity of tennis.. Personally, I would never pay to watch some of these endless men’s matches that are 5 hours of baseline rallies and could put insomniacs to sleep. but that’s just me; there are plenty of dull as dishwater women's matches as well.


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If it is a question of woman are equal to men and all of that - why aren't they asking for the mens prize money to be reduced? It's a question of money and greed and that's the point I disagree with.
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