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Are Grass Warm-Ups Even Necessary?

Here are some interesting fact. Of the 15 previous winners of Wimbledon, only two have played a grass warm-up the year they won Wimbledon. Those two were Jana Novotna and Maria Sharapova and those two won the warm-ups they played in. Also the last five winners of Eastbourne have not made it pass the fourth round of Wimbledon a week later.
Do you think this trend will continue at this year's Wimbledon? Discuss.

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As a Venus fan, I certainly hope so.

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I don't think Serena and Venus have ever played one, Steffi and Lindsay only played one when they had been injured and lacking in match practice.
I guess they feel they can get warmed up on grass in their first couple of matches but it can back fire, Justine's loss last year and Steffi's lost in the Ist round to Lori McNeil.
The grass court season is so short they are not really a predictor of what will happen at Wimbledon.
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As a Venus fan, I certainly hope so.
It works for the Martina fans too. It's not incredibly bad news for Justine either. This is interesting though. The last five winners of Eastbourne have not made it past the fourth round of Wimbledon a week later. Ouch.

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It works for the Martina fans too. It's not incredibly bad news for Justine either. This is interesting though. The last five winners of Eastbourne have not made it past the fourth round of Wimbledon a week later. Ouch.
The main reason for that, I think, is that there really isn't a grass-court season; there's two weeks after Roland Garros, then BOOM, Wimbledon. Those so-called "tournaments" are really nothing more than paid practice sessions.

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I don't think Serena and Venus have ever played one

Actually Venus did play a grass warm up in '99 or '98 I believe.

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I don't think Serena and Venus have ever played one,
Venus played Eastbourne way back in 1997 where she beat Chanda in 1R and lost to Tauziat in 2R. She played it again in 1998 and lost to Zvereva in 1R. Serena played Eastbourne way back in 1998 too - she beat Sawamatsu and Sugiyama then lost to ASV in the QF. Since then, neither have played between RG and Wimbledon. Grass warm up events are not necessary but a lot of players prefer practicing with competitive matches than playing just practice matches.


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The worst-case scenario for a Wimbledon warm-up happened to Julie Halard-Decugis in 2000. She won the Eastbourne title, raising Wimbledon hopes for us fans -- then lost there in the FIRST ROUND to Kristie Boogert, 7-6 (7-4), 0-6, 6-1. She just ran out of gas.

Sure hope that doesn't happen to Justine.
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Kuznetsova lsot in the 1st round after winning Eastbourne 2 years ago as well didn't she?

Of course the last 2 years the Eastbourne winner has gone on to take the US Open too.
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Kuznetsova lsot in the 1st round after winning Eastbourne 2 years ago as well didn't she?

Of course the last 2 years the Eastbourne winner has gone on to take the US Open too.
Which goes to show you make stats "prove" just about anything you want!
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of course they are

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Necessary to win the tourney or to do well at the Big W even thoughy uo are nto the favorite to win? I am sure it has helped some players do much better than they would have without the warm up. Just because they do not the tourney does not mean it was not helpful. Ranking points can be helped, money, etc.
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Necessary to win the tourney or to do well at the Big W even thoughy uo are nto the favorite to win? I am sure it has helped some players do much better than they would have without the warm up. Just because they do not the tourney does not mean it was not helpful. Ranking points can be helped, money, etc.
Yeah and also I think it helps them get the feel for the grass surface after many weeks on clay

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Hopefully Justines Eastbourne Title will pay off for her at Wimbledon.

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Yeah and also I think it helps them get the feel for the grass surface after many weeks on clay
Hell yeah! So weird that they have (2) slams so close together and they are the extreme opposite. So little love for grass is shwon it is not even funny.
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