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Why all the chokers among Russians?

You cannot help but see the pattern, great athleticism, but the achilles heal, mental weakness in matches. Consider this....

Zchokevareva

No explanation needed...

Chokeapova

Blasts through Wimbledon 04, no pressure on her. Nothing major since but the YEC 04 where she beat a cripled Serena. Has choked her way out of many slam semis, those waiting on her to win another slam will probably be waiting forever... Granted she snaps back quicker than most of the other Russians but her fear and tenativeness on crucial points in big matches, along with her pouting spells have cost her dearly. Sheer talent often saves her but still is a choker of the first degree...


DeChoketieva

We know she regularly blows matches but lets look at today against Krajicek...

Served for the match at 5-4 second set and tanked the game with errors...

Second set tie-break, had 4-0 lead, then 5-2 lead and loses 5 points in a row largely as a result of gifts.


Third set, serves to stay in match at 4-5 and gets broken for the first time in the set, winning only one point and finally gifting the match...



Three time the chokin...;-)
All that follow tennis know she is prone to this sort of thing...



Chokefina

Little explanation is needed here. Can get on a roll but suddenly gift a match, can be stellar or play like the kids swatting balls in the fence in the park. Never know what your gonna get... Does a lot of screaming in Russian which usually doesn`t help her...

Chokeskina

We all know the deal here, the minute things start going against her, very prone to start screaming in Russian, looking at her boyfriend/coach with pleading eyes, and batting balls anywhere but over the net and inbetween the lines. Wins the French in 04 then goes mostly in the toilet, blowing her composure, losing confidence. Some see hope in her recent successes but do not hold your breath that it will persist....


Kuzchokesova

Wins 2004 U.S. Open, dismissal of JCap and Serena a big help, that and having DeChoketieva in the final. Since then, mostly in the toilet until early this year with a comeback, but recent performances show the instability in her is alive and well. She looking particularly silly today gifting the match to Chokeskina who was trying to give it away also. Its feast or famine with this player and the issue is clearly emotional stability given the outbursts typically = poor play.
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I love the names you gave them
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Why the pregnant Bulgarian teens? J/K.

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well u missed chokirza the indian player... but seriously they r everywhere nowadays and are winning some and losing some not a surprise there...they also hav staged some hugeee comebacks as well...

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Why the pregnant Bulgarian teens? J/K.
Feel free to start a thread on it, Ive discussed that at length several times since January on Sesil threads... But I dont blame you for wanting to hijack this thread. This is a worthy discussion, what is the deal?
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more !!!!

please do my favorite Russian, Pechokva
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more !!!!

please do my favorite Russian, Pechokva
You can have the honors...
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Pechokva

One of the biggest chokers despite being in the company of her fellow Russians. Claim to fame chokes include choking 3 GS quarterfinals in 2005 against Chokeapova. In many years on the tour, choked in all tournaments played until finally winning a title at the end of 2005 in the final of which, a Swiss choker handed it to her. In 2006, nabbed a series of Minnie Mouse titles on clay and proclaimed herself the best in the world, despite the fact that the clay winning streak was marred by a choke against Henin in Fed cup in which she was up a set. To top it off, when all the marbles were on the line at the Clay Court Grand Slam of 2006, she choked BAD that a certified doctor doing the heimlich would not have helped.
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Pechokva

One of the biggest chokers despite being in the company of her fellow Russians. Claim to fame chokes include choking 3 GS quarterfinals in 2005 against Chokeapova. In many years on the tour, choked in all tournaments played until finally winning a title at the end of 2005 in the final of which, a Swiss choker handed it to her. In 2006, nabbed a series of Minnie Mouse titles on clay and proclaimed herself the best in the world, despite the fact that the clay winning streak was marred by a choke against Henin in Fed cup in which she was up a set. To top it off, when all the marbles were on the line at the Clay Court Grand Slam of 2006, she choked BAD that a certified doctor doing the heimlich would not have helped.
Excellent, you outdid me...
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an attempt at humour??
name caling with xx-choke-xx gets pretty old

now please move on to USA and France and whoever else as well
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What about Dopearancheva?

Oh, she's not Russian. My bad.
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an attempt at humour??
name caling with xx-choke-xx gets pretty old

now please move on to USA and France and whoever else as well
Is not argued that they have the market cornered on choking, but hey, is a real unifed pattern here, is it culture or what? Something is up here, they seem to have a lot in common...
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Chokevetadze is one of the more creative nicknames I've seen. I'm surprised you left it out.

dementieva + sharapova + bartoli + chakvetadze
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In 2006, nabbed a series of Minnie Mouse titles on clay and proclaimed herself the best in the world, despite the fact that the clay winning streak was marred by a choke against Henin in Fed cup in which she was up a set.
You didn't even see the Fed Cup match, but what's new? Minnie Mouse? Well, an injured not 100 percent Pechokeova still beat Justine in a Tier I final.

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To top it off, when all the marbles were on the line at the Clay Court Grand Slam of 2006, she choked BAD that a certified doctor doing the heimlich would not have helped.
She was injured. :retard:




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Some thoughts:
Masha is not a choker, just unlucky
All other Russians have incomplete games that can break down.

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