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Venus vs Henin-Hardenne: Wimbledon Round-of-16

A possiblity Venus is still in line to be seeded #9 to #11, and Henin-Hardenne #5. Wimbledon has no monetary worries, so they won't move Venus up just to keep marquee players in the draw. There's one chance in a thousand they move her to #1 or #2, but they aren't going to move her to #7 or #8.

Of course, it would make a better final, but you never know.

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henin will be seed 3, after sharpie's loss at birmingham. they could meet in the QF.

while i am not a strong advocate for changing the seeding, since wimbledon already does it for the men, i don't see why they wouldn't want to seed venus in the top eight. any of the top four that venus meets in the QF could prove an interesting match deserving of at least a semis round, if not final!
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well last year they did not seed her any higher and she made history by becoming the lowest seed ever to win the title! Doubt that they will change her seeding this year or for anyone else!

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oh dear god i hear justine is a favorite this year!!!!!!!!! i don't know if venus can beat her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, Justine will be #3, and it doesn't matter where Venus will be seeded as she will meet Top 4 in the QF one way or the other.

And what Maria's loss at Birmingham has to do with possible Ju seeding? Had Maria won she's have been #3 and Justine - #4, but that makes no difference anyway.

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and what about the seed of hingis?? she deserve a better seed than 13 (because she would meet seed between 1 and 4 in round 16)
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Hingis should be seeded 12. I'm sooooo hoping Schnyder withdraws. We all know she's a disaster on grass.
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Doesn't matter where they put Venus in the draw, as she is definitely one of the biggest favorites, along with Maria, Amelie...
Vee will win another Wimbledon title beating Masha in the final, Amelie and JuJu as beaten semifinalists, then Hingis, Myskina/Kuzy, Kim and Ana in the quarters.

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oh dear god i hear justine is a favorite this year!!!!!!!!! i don't know if venus can beat her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


if justine somehow wins Wimbledon, it will be because they arrest Venus in connection with the missing diamond racket. at that point, tennis will officially suck!
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oh dear god i hear justine is a favorite this year!!!!!!!!! i don't know if venus can beat her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody needs slapped silly!
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oh dear god i hear justine is a favorite this year!!!!!!!!! i don't know if venus can beat her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check the Venus vs Henin matchups...Venus owns justine henin

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and what about the seed of hingis?? she deserve a better seed than 13 (because she would meet seed between 1 and 4 in round 16)
she should? please explain, because the reasons are not immediately obvious to me.
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Yes, Justine will be #3, and it doesn't matter where Venus will be seeded as she will meet Top 4 in the QF one way or the other.

And what Maria's loss at Birmingham has to do with possible Ju seeding? Had Maria won she's have been #3 and Justine - #4, but that makes no difference anyway.
I was simply stating that Maria would have been the #3 seed had she won Birmingham. That's all.
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Check the Venus vs Henin matchups...Venus owns justine henin
oh no, you didn't. because we are now talking about the new and improved justine. that player, venus has never beaten!
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Well, I'll just state one fact for the Venus' fans : Davenport once was 8-1 against Venus, then Venus won 11 of their 13 next matches. (before Venus got injured). (Justine is "just" 1-7 against Venus)
Had Davenport gotten injured after their 9 next matches, would you still think that Davenport is definitely better than Venus ?
Venus is a great player, she truly dominated Justine. But, Justine had a sort of mental block against her : she could've won some of their matches but choked. And, one has to admit Justine isn't the same player than before.
I'm not telling that Justine would now thrash Venus on grass (maybe she somehow still has a mental block against Venus), I'm just saying that those stats are not that reliable anymore.
I really don't understand why most of Venus' fans are so sarcastic, when it's clear Justine isn't the same player. (and neither is Venus)
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