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Unfair Ranking DisAdvantage For Defending GS Champions

I just realized that if a player defends their grand slam, they still won't go up in the rankings, only if players above them lose major points. It really sucks, because If venus defends, she won't go anywhere in the rankings
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post #2 of 71 (permalink) Old Jun 15th, 2006, 04:14 AM
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Its normal because what really counts is the YE ranking and defending you GS points is a very good buffer...i guess...

and just like Justine, if she do well in other tournaments then she will have no other route but upwards in the rankings...

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For the life of me, I will never understand why people think that a 52 week rolling ranking system is "unfair" because it doesn't carry over results that happened more than 52 weeks ago.
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The 2006 result replaces the 2005, it makes sense that if they get the same amount of points for the event in each year, the player's rank points will stay the same. Do you think they should get some kind of "bonus" or something for defending a slam?
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I just realized that if a player defends their grand slam, they still won't go up in the rankings, only if players above them lose major points. It really sucks, because If venus defends, she won't go anywhere in the rankings
Since this ranking system has been instated this year, everyone defending a title form last year is suffering the same, it´s the same for everybody, i don´t see the unfair part.

Now if you tell me that its unfair that beating the world number one means the same as beating the world 200 (0 points), yeah i think that´s unfair.

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I just realized that if a player defends their grand slam, they still won't go up in the rankings, only if players above them lose major points. It really sucks, because If venus defends, she won't go anywhere in the rankings
You are retarded. How is that not fair? You give WS fans a bad name.
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I say is fair because if someone win all the slams of mostly (like roger in the atp) then she can be number one for a long time without playing and that is unfair, a real champion must be able of defend her (or his) titles (like Rogi)
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When I was a kid tennis enthusiast i never got it...BUT...the rankings take into consideration 12 MONTHS of results....therefore u are ranked on your performance of the last 12 months....thats why points 'drop off'...imagine if points simply accumulated then old players would have an advantage....anyway it is common sense for it to work that way....if Venus wins wimbledon she retains her ranking becasue her current ranking already has points for a wimbledon win in it.

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any sport with a continuous ranking system is the same - golf, sqaush etc if the rankings were just the total of all the points a player gained throughout their career Navratilova would still be number 1 in the world
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I just realized that if a player defends their grand slam, they still won't go up in the rankings, only if players above them lose major points. It really sucks, because If venus defends, she won't go anywhere in the rankings
Don't blame the system; blame Venus for not playing enough events to take advantage of the system.

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You are retarded. How is that not fair? You give WS fans a bad name.
okay, that was completely uncalled for and it completely showed your stupidity.
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post #14 of 71 (permalink) Old Jun 15th, 2006, 06:46 AM
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Yeah, I kinda don't like this thread. It just seems whenever something doesn't go Venus's way everyone seems to create a thread saying why.. it's so unfair.

Sorry, I'm Venus's top fan -- but the ranking system isn't unfair (in this aspect.)

Best of luck Vee--win it!
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it allows em to maintain around their ranking and then in other events they can improve on their ranking IMO

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