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Will we see a more mature Venus winning Wimbledon?

Last year Venus' Joy after her Wimbledon win, while nice to see, was a little disrespectful to Davenport, and not in good taste. When she wins this year's Ladies' Championship (her 4th), will we see a more mature Venus?

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Yeah like Davenport's refusal to speak was the height of respect and maturity.......Venus will do what Venus damn well chooses to do and you will just have to live with it.
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It wasnt immature the way she reacted, it was a long tight close match in which she faught immensely hard and faught off a MP plus she hadnt won a slam in like 4 yrs and the whole tournament for her had been huge i think anyone in her position would have acted the same, if she wins this yr it prob wont be the same but it will still be a big celebration

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How many threads about Venus and Serena are you going to make?

Venus was excited, and as far as I'm concerned, it was a joy to watch.
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After being so harshly counted out, and not really given a fighting chance until she served for the championship, I don't blame her at all for how she reacted. I think it was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. She was so joyous, she didn't even care what anyone thought about it. I don't think it was the most considerate of Davenport's feelings, especially since Davey was injured, but Venus didn't use any gamesmanship, she wasn't as "IN YO FACE HO!" as she and her sister were when they first came onto the scene in the late 1990s. She honestly has spoken SO highly of Davenport, and I actually think they have a really good relationship (look @ Vee, Ree, Linds, and Corina @ Fed Cup 2005, they look like they really enjoyed each other's company). It was such a beautiful moment, much like when she won in 2000. She was jumping all over the place there too. But when she repeated in 2001, she was much calmer, even though she didn't win in as dominating fashion. I think she will win this year, and will be much calmer, because....she knows that EVERYONE knows, she's the one to beat this year: Linds is injured, so is Maria (not to mention that Maria or Lindsay have NEVER beaten her on grass, despite the fact that when they both won their Wimbledon titles, they defeated tennis LEGENDS in their respective finals). Amelie will make a good run, but I don't care what ANYONE says, she choked against Serena in 2004, and against Lindsay last year. Yeah she was defaulted a slam this year, but I don't think that will EVER happen again. Justine plays well on grass but it's been 3 years since she was in the second week at Wimbledon(it was a nice streak for her though 1 final and 2 semis). Kim is a good player on all surfaces, but she's the kind of player that needs time to find her groove and there aren't enough warm-ups for her to start playing her best tennis by the end of the month. Martina is a good player, but apart from her amazing win in 1997, she really hasn't done so hot there (for a player many consider to be the smartest ever). Venus really stands alone as the top contender. Kuznetsova and Vaidisova are really good players, but it will be interesting to see how their games translate onto grass after doing so well on clay. It will be an interesting fortnight, but should Venus lift her namesake dish again (which I think she will, beating Mauresmo in the finals), she'll be MUCH calmer....but it wasn't disrespectful, it was PURE, beautiful JOY!

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Yeah like Davenport's refusal to speak was the height of respect and maturity.......Venus will do what Venus damn well chooses to do and you will just have to live with it.
yep, I was JUST gonna say that

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You still have the right to celebrate Justine 5th slam before getting back to your old Williams kindbashing standarts.

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why you make a dumb ass statement pagliaggi? I think Venus not going to win Wimbledon this year. But when she does win Wimbledon, she can celebrate what she likes, so shut your mouth.
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Players can never win. A lot of people were critical of Kuznetsova's reaction when she won the US Open because of the lack of emotion. It was quite refreshing to see someone genuinely excited about winning.
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Last year Venus' Joy after her Wimbledon win, while nice to see, was a little disrespectful to Davenport, and not in good taste. When she wins this year's Ladies' Championship (her 4th), will we see a more mature Venus?

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If she wins, she can celebrate however she wants to. This happened a year ago. You're certainly good at holding grudges, aren't you?

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Originally Posted by Pagliacci
Last year Venus' Joy after her Wimbledon win, while nice to see, was a little disrespectful to Davenport, and not in good taste. When she wins this year's Ladies' Championship (her 4th), will we see a more mature Venus?

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hmmm Justine was disrespectful to Serena and that was so not in good taste no matter how u sugar coat it

remember the "hand" incident

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How sad is it when people begin to critique a player's celebration after a big win. As if it is anyone's business how someone feels inside and how they wish to emote. There is no right or wrong way to celebrate, except if it is done in an unsporting way, which Venus' celebration wasn't.
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. Martina is a good player, but apart from her amazing win in 1997, she really hasn't done so hot there (for a player many consider to be the smartest ever)
Have u ever seen Martina v.s Venus 2000 Wimby QF match

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