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Should The Women Have A Five Setter GS Finals Match?

I think so. I think the reason why some of the women's matches are boring during the finals of GS tournaments is because after the second or third sets, they're just getting warmed up. I believe that adding two more set would be great for women's tennis. It'll provide a chance for the players to actually get more involved in the match, which I most certainly think would make it more interesting.

Take for example the men's final yesterday, Federer and Nadal didn't start actually going until the third set. What if the men's matches were three setters also, it would surely be boring.

I think the women can handle two more sets during the finals of a GS. At the least, it would give the audience what they paid for.
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Yes I totally agree. The players battling in the final wouldn't freak out as easily after losing the first set. They'd be playing with less pressure in the second set and less grand slam finals would be straight sets blowouts.
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Absolutely! Not only would it put a damper on the equal pay for equal play issue, it would also serve to reward the handful of players who have worked on their fitness, stamina, and worked themselves into peak condition. Nobody can keep up flashy play for 3 straight sets without suffering some kind of let down, and I also think it would give thinkers like Hingis a better chance of getting their teeth into a match versus being blown off the court in two sets.

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You'may be right, but I am not so sure. However it'd be really great to see some 5 setters - I don't remember any 3-5 sets battle since '98 YEC final.
Still there's the problem of fitness - most of the players *die* after 2 hours of play.
How would it look if after 3 sets in a GS final we'd see slumping playes just praying for the sudden death tiebreak or so?
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Take for example the men's final yesterday, Federer and Nadal didn't start actually going until the third set. What if the men's matches were three setters also, it would surely be boring.
Oh, my - it was such a boring/low quality/nervous match that I would never ever use it as a particular example.

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Definatley, for eg the finals LenaD played in i think would have been more exciting if they went to 5 sets

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Yes, that will be pretty cool. They used to have a five set final at YEC.
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ITA!
Great idea!

That was part of my rationale for the pro's
and con's of men playing best of 5 and
women playing best of 3.

I also think that this would be a nice
way to ease into women possibly playing
best of 5 only in the Slams like most of
the men's tournaments.
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I don't know.. sometimes on the men's side I find the 5 setters Soooooooo boring.. you start watching, can leave, have breakfast, do some laundry, go for a run and come back and they are still playing.

even though i'm a big tennis fan, I prefer the best of 3 even for finals. you know you are in for 90-120 mins most of the time..

I would like to say that the GS finals produce high enough quality that having them play longer would be good, but I can't say that in all honesty.

and on the mens side sometimes I think when a player goes down a break he sometimes just concedes that set because in best of 5 he knows he has more chances. on the women's side, I think it makes it much more exciting to have so much more riding on each set.
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Originally Posted by Freewoman33
I think so. I think the reason why some of the women's matches are boring during the finals of GS tournaments is because after the second or third sets, they're just getting warmed up. I believe that adding two more set would be great for women's tennis. It'll provide a chance for the players to actually get more involved in the match, which I most certainly think would make it more interesting.

Take for example the men's final yesterday, Federer and Nadal didn't start actually going until the third set. What if the men's matches were three setters also, it would surely be boring.

I think the women can handle two more sets during the finals of a GS. At the least, it would give the audience what they paid for.
I don't disagree with the fact that the women should play 5 setters in the final, but I also feel like the men should only play 3 setters until the semis. The competition each round is more tougher for the men and shortening their matches would probably make the long matches more exciting to the general public. JMO.
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You'may be right, but I am not so sure. However it'd be really great to see some 5 setters - I don't remember any 3-5 sets battle since '98 YEC final.
Still there's the problem of fitness - most of the players *die* after 2 hours of play.
How would it look if after 3 sets in a GS final we'd see slumping playes just praying for the sudden death tiebreak or so?


Oh, my - it was such a boring/low quality/nervous match that I would never ever use it as a particular example.
I agree with this post.

I like the IDEA of it but in reality I don’t think it would translate into better grand slam finals.

IMO - virtually ALL of the Chase Champs finals that went to 5 sets were pretty boring 5th sets. The match was over and decided by then based on who could still run! There was no tension or excitement as you could tell one player was just completely exhausted and going through the motions..

The Steffi vs Hingis 5 set final was a 6-0 5th set.

The steffi vs Huber 5 set final was a blowout in the 5th

The Monica vs Gabby 5 set final was a GREAT match but the 5th was very suspensful, think it was 6-2 from memory.

I think most of the 5 set matches have about 3 sets in them that were fully competitive, the other sets were ones where a player got behind 1 or 2 breaks and sort of gave up til the next set. The Hingis/steffi match is the best example of this.

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No, things are good the way they are now. Think back to all four of 2005's Slam finals. Could you imagine how badly a best 3 of 5 format would have hurt them?

AO - We'd have to watch as Serena handed the exhausted Davenport TWO bagels.

FO - 6-1 6-1 .... 6-1

W - That match was perfect. And it was already very, very long. Another set, and Lindsay would've collapsed from the back injury, I think. Better that it ended with high quality.

USO - Ugh ... that match was so hideous ... do we really need to see Pierce get thrashed in 3 sets?
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