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Austin Is To Evert As Nadal Is To Federer?

Between 1979 and 1980, Evert was the #1 player in the world, but Austin beat her 5 of 6 times in one stretch, much like Nadal has done to Roger. Of course, Evert eventually figured out the Austin puzzle as I'm sure Federer will figure out the Nadal puzzle.

(Uhm, Roger, move in because he is going to serve to your backhand)

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So true! But I'm sad because if Roger had played as he did in the first set, he'd probably have won this match and give a shot at a Grand Slam...

Wimbledon's around the corner...
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Thanks for making that parallel. A few weeks ago I was trying to come up with an instance in men's tennis history where the clear No. 1 could not seem to beat the No. 2 for an extended period of time. I couldn't think of one, but you're right, there has been a similar situation on the women's side.
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Thanks for making that parallel. A few weeks ago I was trying to come up with an instance in men's tennis history where the clear No. 1 could not seem to beat the No. 2 for an extended period of time. I couldn't think of one, but you're right, there has been a similar situation on the women's side.
Except that Evert wasn't the clear #1 in 1979-80 when Austin was beating up on her. Navratilova was ranked #1 and Austin #2. I doubt that many people thought of Evert as the #1 player after she lost to Navratilova in the '79 Wimbledon final and then to Austin in the '79 US final.

Best left-right combination by a German (and that includes Max Schmeling): Steffi Graf. All she did in 1987 was knock Navratilova out of #1 and try to knock Evert out of the sport. (Mike Lupica in "The Best and Worst of Tennis in 1987", World Tennis)

"A couple of years ago, we nicknamed Steffi Graf's forehand 'Jaws'. And that music would go perfectly when she starts running in to the net, swarming on that little ball." (JoAnne Russell, during the 1988 Wimbledon final between Graf and Navratilova)
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Austin would have continued to do well were it not for the injuries.

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Thanks for making that parallel. A few weeks ago I was trying to come up with an instance in men's tennis history where the clear No. 1 could not seem to beat the No. 2 for an extended period of time. I couldn't think of one, but you're right, there has been a similar situation on the women's side.
Last year it looked like we were having history repeated remembering Graf vs Seles

First match, the clear #1 wins in a tough match (Roland Garros 89 vs Miami 05) while the following matches the young newcomer takes the world by storm winning their following meetings (including great Roland Garros matches in both situations)

But since then, while the top girls were sharing their victories, amazing Rafa keeps winning and winning...

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Austin would have continued to do well were it not for the injuries.

Vamos Rafa.
Well rafa has proved that he is the best and period.
I love to see federer loosing and I love to see Rafa winning.

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And actually, what really shocks me is that today Federer fell to 0-4 against Nadal this year while he's 44-0 against everyone else

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Surely it's Austen is to Evert as Nadal is to Federer?

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Nadal's game is very uncomfortable to Federer. Federer is number one without doubt but in clay Nadal is the best, and he will be better on the other surfaces in injuries respect him
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Except that Evert wasn't the clear #1 in 1979-80 when Austin was beating up on her. Navratilova was ranked #1 and Austin #2. I doubt that many people thought of Evert as the #1 player after she lost to Navratilova in the '79 Wimbledon final and then to Austin in the '79 US final.
I thought Evert ended 1979 #2 while she and Navratilova battled Austin for #1 throughout the year... I'll have to check that. Thanks for pointing it out! I guess with Evert not being at #1 it would tarnish my analogy.

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Surely it's Austen is to Evert as Nadal is to Federer?
yeah

but to me its Seles is to Graf as Nadal is to Federer
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Surely it's Austen is to Evert as Nadal is to Federer?
I changed it.

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Nadal's game is very uncomfortable to Federer. Federer is number one without doubt but in clay Nadal is the best, and he will be better on the other surfaces in injuries respect him

Well Ndal also beat Roger thsi yaer in hard .

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I changed it.
yeah but you forgot to put Roger in there
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