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College players: how do they do it?

If you look at some former college players that turned pro you will find just how much success many of them have had. Laura Granville, for example, has broken a number of college and USTA records. My question is: how do these players go from being highly successful players--many of them building impressive win streaks along the way-- to pros who have a hard time winning three matches in a row? emotionally speaking.

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It's quite simple. They go to college because they were not good enough to be pros earlier and when they get out they're still below the curve.
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The level of tennis is just much higher, I imagine. The majority of top players don't play college tennis and many of the players who do have already realised that they won't make it as pros. A lot of players on the WTA turn pro by their mid-teens, thus essentially pushing education to the background. If the top players aren't playing in college, it's not surprising that someone like Granville can dominate on the college circuit but then be out of her league on the pro tour.

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because they had games that won in the juniors and college, but that game doesn't always translate over to the pros. i notice that most of the college players are very one-dimensional players and don't have enough pace on their shots to keep up with the pros.

if you want to go into my problems with the USTA and their lack of successful pros, that'll take me 3 pages of this thread to explain.
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Are you asking why they are not as successful on the pro tour, as they were in college, or are you asking how it is that they deal with going from winning to losing?







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which college did laura granville go to? lol..
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which college did laura granville go to? lol..
She went to Stanford. I believe her singles record was something like 50-1.







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Are you asking why they are not as successful on the pro tour, as they were in college, or are you asking how it is that they deal with going from winning to losing?
My question was: HOW do they emotionally deal with losing week-in week-out after 50+match win streaks in college?

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the level of college tennis isn't even close to that of the pros.

I saw UCLA def. Baylor a couple years ago and the men couldn't even get to rallies of four shots. Horrible quality.
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My question was: HOW do they emotionally deal with losing week-in week-out after 50+match win streaks in college?
Some don't which only makes things worse.
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Laura had alot of success when she first played as a pro i think she got to like 28 in the world and then she started to suck i think she surpised herself
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which college did laura granville go to? lol..
Stanford, where all the players kick but in women's tennis. Sadly, there's now a larger gap between college and pro tennis though simply because these players are trying to balance out college AND tennis - not easy.
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Laura had alot of success when she first played as a pro i think she got to like 28 in the world and then she started to suck i think she surpised herself
I would hardly say she sucks. She's a top 50 player and has reached a few quarterfinals on tour this year, 3rd round of the Australian Open, and won a 50K.

Her main issue is that her game is fairly one dimensional. People picked up on it after her rookie year and she didn't add too much to her repetoire to compensate. I agree with you that she's never going to make waves on tour, but she'll have a nice career in her own right.

As far as college tennis goes, the difference between college and pros is monumental. They showed a college match on TV a couple weeks ago between Amber Liu and Audra Cohen, both in the top 5 for the NCAA womens rankings. NEITHER of them will EVER make the top 250 in their lifetime. Audra looked to be about a top 400 player and Amber Liu looked like a strictly 10K player.
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You can tell just by how they hit the ball. They don't have nearly enough pace and power to compete with the pros. They get blown off the court. Granville is actually one of the few lucky ones to be able to get into the top 50. Getting into the top 50 is already extremely hard to do.
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I would hardly say she sucks. She's a top 50 player and has reached a few quarterfinals on tour this year, 3rd round of the Australian Open, and won a 50K.

Her main issue is that her game is fairly one dimensional. People picked up on it after her rookie year and she didn't add too much to her repetoire to compensate. I agree with you that she's never going to make waves on tour, but she'll have a nice career in her own right.

As far as college tennis goes, the difference between college and pros is monumental. They showed a college match on TV a couple weeks ago between Amber Liu and Audra Cohen, both in the top 5 for the NCAA womens rankings. NEITHER of them will EVER make the top 250 in their lifetime. Audra looked to be about a top 400 player and Amber Liu looked like a strictly 10K player.
I think part of the reason why the level of play in college is quite bad - I think Amber was way better last time during her sophomore year - is mainly due to the lack of opportunities in playing WTA tournaments. Basically, it's only during the summer that they get chances to play qualifying rounds of the pre-US open tournaments. The rest of their schedule is packed either for studying or playing more matches against other schoos. Regardless, the Stanford team whose key players are Amber, Alice Barnes and Theresa Logar are all great players and are the best in the nation.... Amber Liu, Theresa Logar, Anne Yelsey have all played at the US open.
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