Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: East Coast - USA
What Venus& Serena could do to help by Toineefa
While I did read the original thread entitled “"What Venus and Serena could do to help working class blacks" by Toineefa) practically at the moment it was first posted, I had chosen not to comment on it and really hoped that it would drop to the bottom, be removed or referred to the Non Tennis Section at worst.
Yet his/her comments came up again in the (now closed) thread entitled “Why was Heavyhitter suspended?” A poster asked why was his/her thread was allowed to remain open and was told by a few posters that the thread was non offensive..
Try as I have to dismiss the comments, and not voice my thoughts, can no longer hold back
Let me began by quoting Toineefa's opening comments re what he/she feels Venus and Serena should do and what is clearly his opinion of working class blacks...
They're not my favourite players but I do see them as role models cos they're not only black they're successful. I think cos they came from the ghetto they could help other blacks in the ghetto. I realise this is a sensitive topic but I do think it's important so please don't take offence especially you Dawn and Jakeev.
Venus and Serena could not only have tennis seminars but they could serve as mentors so to speak to underprivileged blacks. Venus and Serena could teach these blacks the importance of work ethics, social etiquette, birth control and discipline. This cycle of being victims needs to stop cos it's the mentality of victimisation that has ruined the lives of many working class blacks.
I know Venus and Serena do loads of charity work but I think they need to focus on poor blacks. They can emphasize the things that gave them the strength to succeed in tennis and get out of poverty and the ghetto.
I apologize if anyone takes offence but I believe this is important."
Being that the above is considered non-offensive, then if I were to create a similar thread perhaps entitled " What Jennifer could do to help poor whites” it also would/should prove acceptable/non offensive to those same posters and others who agreed but chose not to comment.. It would begin like this...
She's not my favorite player but since some do see her as a role model cos she's not just white and successful and a person familiar with taking drugs, she could help poor whites to do the same. I realize this is a sensitive topic but I do think it's important so please don't take offense....
Jennifer could not only have tennis seminars/donate to charities but could serve as a role model for recovering addicts, speak to underprivileged/poor white people. Jennifer could teach these poor white people ( you know the type cigarette buds, empty liquor bottles, black eyes, tangled dirty hair, child in mom's arms and one or two pulling on her shorts, daddy/daddies of the children who spend their leisure (which is 24/7) kicking mom and child/ren’s behinds, drinking etc) the importance of work ethics, social etiquette, birth control discipline and how to seek decent housing (give up the trailer parks). As this cycle of being victims needs to stop since it's the mentality of victimization that has ruined the lives of many poor whites.
I imagine that Jennifer does loads of charity work but I think she really needs to spend more time speaking at AA/NA, Battered Wives/Children Programs, yes she really needs to focus on these poor whites.
She can emphasize the things that gave her the strength to succeed in tennis and get off of drugs, teach them that booze/drugs/illegitimate children is not the way. Emphasize the importance of cleanliness, good work ethics, birth control, not to use abortions as a means of birth control, etc... etc.)
I apologize if anyone takes offense but I believe this is important
Of course the description I have used for poor whites has been exaggerated in the extreme and this is what I think Jennifer should do at all but my point/question is why can't some see that the thread created by Toinfee was/is offensive, well I guess they can't especially if they are not black and/or are just prefer to close their eyes and hearts to what the intent (I feel) was for creating it. ****btw what the heck does it really have to do with tennis anyway****
Also when/if you really do some research and just take a good look around, you will most likely find the following:
Some underprivileged/poor people of all races and colors had/continue to have difficulty with self discipline, drugs, family planning, physical abusive, social etiquette … it is not limited to one race of people.
You know… We all are responsible for trying to help make the world a better place, yes this should be the case regardless of whether we are "among the successful" (per world standards), come from poor families/the ghetto/trailer park/ huts or whatever… and the best place to start is in your own backyard/community/HOUSE.
Really we should be more careful how we treat each other as we are all more the same than different and tend to respond quite similar when placed in similar situations.
Also Venus and Serena are involved in Tennis & Learning Centers in a very large way. These centers are made available not only to blacks but other races as well. They are interested in Educating Our (Meaning Yours and Mine) Young People .