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whats happening to kim and justine?

A year ago they were winning a lot of tournaments, owned the tour except 2 or 3... they aren't as dominating now!?

and they are losing to players they aren't suppose to lose...

the other girls must have caught up!?... your thoughts guys...

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theyve both struggled with fitness and health.

at Roland Garros they still HAVE to be the top picks. Even though they havent been in their best form of late, although Kim was brilliant in Warsaw, i cant pick a winner over them (although im hoping Venus will win!)At Wimbledon they ar outsiders to the big hitters lke Venus, Lindsay and Maria.
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hopefully both will start being themselves at roland garros... they can't just lose to anyone...

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hopefully both will start being themselves at roland garros... they can't just lose to anyone...
I hope so too
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Justine: health issues?

Kim: lack of motivation

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Justine: health issues?

Kim: lack of motivation
Hmmmmm interesting one. A lot op people will disagree with your comment about Kim, but I do feel the same way as you. Kim has never been the same since US Open 2005... Ok, she had a good shot at winning the Australian Open and won Warsaw but ever since she's been dating Brian, talking about retirement and winning her first Slam she's never played near the level she held at US O. I hope she will stun everyone by winning RG or Wimby, I keep my fingers crossed. Justine... obviously health issues... to me she has always shown a bigger drive to win Slams and more importantly she's shown a bigger drive to achieve big things in tennis (Maybe I'm wrong and Kim just shows it differently). I don't see her quiting tennis before 2010.

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I don't see Kim getting back to the way she was playing summer 2005. Her class will win her some more matches against other top-10 players and probably even 1-2 tournaments, but that's it. Her motivation to be on court 24/24 has gone. Reading her diary lately I'm always surprised she only starts training some days before a tournament starts. I don't see the opposition doing this, so obviously they will catch up. I seriously hope I'm wrong, only time will tell.

Justine will get back I think, she still has the drive. As long as her body holds, she will keep progressing to her old level.
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The only reason they were ever dominating was because of the injuries of venus and serena and the same thing has happened to them plus there are more players who can beat them on a regular basis than say 3 years ago

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I'm not really worried about Justine. She's never enjoyed playing on U.S. hardcourts, her losses there aren't particularly out of character. On clay, she's beaten Nadia, Elena D, Sveta and Amelie this year, that's good enough for me. If she doesn't win RG, it will have taken a very special performance by a top player to put her out. She's always upped her level for Slams.

As for Kim, I've never really understood her strategy and motivation generally for tennis. Since she turned pro, she hasn't made any significant improvements to her game. She's become more consistent with her shots, but she hasn't changed any of them or worked on her strategy within matches. Now that she has no coach to direct her practices, even the consistency within matches has gone. I could never support her - partly just because I don't like her game or her personality - but mostly just because she's never shown any serious desire to maximise her game. She should have a better serve - she's powerful enough to make it faster and she could improve placement, develop a kick serve, etc - and she could have developed a more aggressive game plan. She's done none of that - either because she doesn't have the desire or because she hasn't had a good enough coach - and I personally find it tedious to support players who don't seem to work on their game.
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Ever heard the phrase "Form is temporary... Class is permanent"?
a very good phrase,really!and 2):many forget so easily,that they are NO MACHINES,like any other player in fact,plus there are more and more strong,young girls coming up,so that explains a lot.but the most important is:when it matters most,THEY ARE THERE!!

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I don't see Kim getting back to the way she was playing summer 2005. Her class will win her some more matches against other top-10 players and probably even 1-2 tournaments, but that's it. Her motivation to be on court 24/24 has gone. Reading her diary lately I'm always surprised she only starts training some days before a tournament starts. I don't see the opposition doing this, so obviously they will catch up. I seriously hope I'm wrong, only time will tell.

Justine will get back I think, she still has the drive. As long as her body holds, she will keep progressing to her old level.
I'm sorry to say that I agree with your comments re Kim.

Let's hope she can prove us both wrong

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The only reason they were ever dominating was because of the injuries of venus and serena

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Just wait a few weeks, and then you'll see Kim beating Justine in the most exciting and intense final in RG history
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good luck Kimmie and Juju

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